Would You Like Some Fries With That Sub-Prime?

Submitted by Sassys on March 24, 2008 - 9:27am. economy | money | Polirics

In the 70s it was "Where's the beef?" Right? In the 80s it was "It's the economy stupid" Right? In the 90s it was "Gimme the money" Right? And now it's "Where's the money?" Right?

Trust me I have first hand experience with all of these sayings and I can tell you where you wont find the money...
Banks you say? No, they no longer lend money to anybody because for a brief "Gimme the money" moment of sheer greed they chose to take stupid risks.
Wallstreet you say? No they are terrified because they see that "It's the economy stupid" So the money is definitely not there.
The job market you say? No they found "The Beef" But due to its higher prices they had to cut back on jobs!
But we are going to get some back with our "gift" from our leader sometime this spring you say? No, no one will spend it because we do not know "Where's the money?"

This is where the money really is...
1) War

2) Politicians, toys and trysts.

3) Saudi Arabia and Europe

4) A soon to be built library for our illiterate president.

5) With all of our corporations abroad.

6) Cheneys deep pockets and his gun collection:(

7) Under George Bush's mattress, he doesn't trust the banks
these days.
8) Pipelines...Bush senior is one proud Papa.

9) Credit card debt, it's how they make their money.

10) Last but not least...It's anywhere but here!

This is the pattern...The Republicans mess up the economy so badly that by the time the Democrats clean it up, the Republicans step back in and succeed in making it even worse then when they were last in control!

If John McCain wins the Presidency then the list above will never change! His adamant persistence that we stay in Iraq and Afghanistan despite 2/3 of Americans saying ENOUGH already, tells me that because "He believes it's right"
means when our soldiers finally do come home they will find their parents Sub-primed homes in default and have to join the rest of the country in trying to dig out of financial crisis, and that's IF they can get a job!

Financially speaking we can't afford another 4 years of
Bush/McCain war mongering politics, we really can't.

By the way if any of you owe the IRS any money then you can kiss the "free tax incentive" money goodbye. At best it would only have been about $1.500 dollars anyways and that will be spent by them! Where will they spend it you say?
HELL I DON"T KNOW!!! RIIIIIGHT?

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ooo! ooo! hand waving I know where money & good jobs are!

Submitted by spookyyank on March 24, 2008 - 10:26am.

DUBAI! Er, sorry, not here, but if you want to move to the middle east, you'll find good jobs, a fab economy, and definately room for growth and economic gain! And, yes, even women are welcome to share in the wealth!

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And do they treat these women Spooky

Submitted by Sassys on March 25, 2008 - 8:41am.

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like they treat the men? NOPE! I am serious when I tell you that no one on this planet could pay me enough money to move to the middle east...I have traveled quite extensively in my lifetime and there are certain places I wont even consider going. I could pretend to be Canadian but then I would have to put on a phony accent and look perpetually confused:(

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Actually, Sassy

Submitted by spookyyank on March 25, 2008 - 10:01am.

From what I've seen, women have the same advatages as men and they are encouraged to speak their minds and climb the ladder. It's just one of many things that sets Dubai apart from the rest of the middle east! Of course, I was only kidding about anyone moving there, BUT they are being flooded by immigrants - including Americans looking to make some extra money (mostly college studets, I think). It's the play ground of the super-rich, so there's money to be had everywhere! LOL
Hell, if I could, I'd give my eye-teeth for a vacation there!

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Not me Spooky NO WAY!

Submitted by Sassys on March 25, 2008 - 10:15am.

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Dubai may sound like a cool place however it gets its money from oil, and personally I think I already spend enough money at the gas stations here...why would I spend a holiday somewhere where being a Jew (AHEM!!)is considered a bad thing? Aren't you a uuum recent Jew? Dubai is not a place where I would feel happy. They may have all the money, but they also have a lot of prejudice.

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Not an issue

Submitted by spookyyank on March 25, 2008 - 11:31am.

I've been keeping an eye out for stories about Dubai sine I first saw it a couple years ago on 'Stranded with Cash Peters'. And, Cash, by the way, is an opnely GAY man who loved the place and had a great time.

But, here are some links that I think says it better than me.

http://www.globosapiens.net/app_global/travel-link.php?b=/topic-jewish-traveler-to-dubai_24_2134_0000.html&u=http://dubaiforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=18074

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071022192220AAZGlRl

http://uaecommunity.blogspot.com/2006/10/jewish-diamonds-find-favor-in-dubai.html

Sure, I think I'd remove the "Heb" post-it from my forehead before arriving. But, Dubai is doing it's best to become a city where ALL are welcome and right now it's "only" Israeli's who cannot enter and that's due to there being no peace treaty. You'll see from the links that Jews have happily traveled there with no problem at all. Some even live there! No place is perfect, but what impresses me is that they're TRYING to over come the prejudice and hatred of the past. And, like how the women who are encouraged the way they are - the founder of this city is wise enough to know that money doesn't know race or religion or sex.

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However Spooky the money is still not here!

Submitted by Sassys on March 25, 2008 - 11:45am.

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And when the world stops using oil, specifically the USA, then Dubai and Saudi Arabia etc. will do what? Eh? The founder of Dubai? I bet he drives a BMW and speaks English right? I hope that all the Dubaians are happy, but I think that Americans need a break, we need to become self sufficient. However we can't become self sufficient if we keep spending our money on oil and war. The party is over, and so far it's put us in a recession and no way out. Thanks to the Republicans and their "wise spending" they really do owe this country an apology.

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I don't get that, Sassy

Submitted by spookyyank on March 25, 2008 - 11:50am.

There has been talk about using our own resources for a long time - why aren't we???? I do know that some parts of Alaska won't allow drilling for oil. But, it's been pointed out over and over again that we can "take care of ourselves". So, I don't get why we aren't!

Maybe, just MAYBE, if electric cars and the hybrids that everyone wants become so the norm, we'll finally be less reliant on oil and do just that. Somehow, though, I don't think we'll see that in our lifetime.

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It will happen Spooky but first we have to

Submitted by Sassys on March 25, 2008 - 11:57am.

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see to it that someone that does not pander to the rich gets elected. Anyone who has an interest in oil, will obviously keep things going the way they are, to line their pockets. The smart money should be in finding a solution and many people have found solutions, but it's hard to sell solutions to Exxon, Mobile etc. when they are making BILLIONS with things the way they stand today!

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We have these reserves, Spooky,...

Submitted by Catfish on April 2, 2008 - 9:27pm.

that are on stash just in case some big time war effort, for the protection of the United States, comes about. Bush actually talked about it a couple of years ago, saying some Congressional members wanted us to tap into it to help bring our prices down, but he wasn't doing it. And, from what I understand, it's a bunch.

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Wow, that sucks

Submitted by spookyyank on April 2, 2008 - 10:06pm.

That really sucks. I wonder how bad it would have to get before they broke out that check book!

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Yes Catfish but the "reserve"

Submitted by Sassys on April 3, 2008 - 1:13pm.

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at best will only last about 20 years! The big oil companies know this...they are spiking the prices BECAUSE they know that the gravy train will eventually dry up.

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I wasn't commenting, Sassys,...

Submitted by Catfish on April 3, 2008 - 10:21pm.

on whether the oil reserves should have been used for us or not, though, in a way, I wish our country would let us use more of our oil instead of sending it anywhere else, but just telling Spooky about the reserves in the first place. Odd as it seems, that's actually one of the best kept secrets in this country. Hiding it in plain sight; interesting concept.

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commune!

Submitted by alohahola29 on April 2, 2008 - 7:57pm.

Forget Dubai

Time to create a self-sufficient commune.
We should grow crops- and POTted plants- and forget about income taxes.
We'll also jack some electricity and running water- it'll be sweet.

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Oh come on!

Submitted by spookyyank on April 2, 2008 - 10:07pm.

And when we're hit with the munchies and have no Jack-in-the-box - what then????

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hahaha, i'm not sure. I

Submitted by alohahola29 on April 3, 2008 - 10:08am.

hahaha, i'm not sure. I don't really think I could deal with a commune. Too much free love.

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Spoooooooooky, she said "free love."

Submitted by Pussy Willow on April 3, 2008 - 10:27am.

That's the clincher for me. When do we start the commune? We can take turns making cookies and stuff for when we have the munchies. And with all those people living together there will probably always be leftovers in the fridge. LOLOL!!!

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Ah, missed that!

Submitted by spookyyank on April 3, 2008 - 10:37am.

Ok, this is sounding better! Ah, dare to dream! My only fear is that the guys willing to sign up will be the ones who post the crazy-deranged ads on craigslist! LOL

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Hmmmm.....that is a big drawback, Spooky.

Submitted by Pussy Willow on April 3, 2008 - 11:09am.

We'll need to come up with a fairly comprehensive screening process. And an alternate location to send the crazies would be good - just so we don't have to deal with their BS when we tell them they can't join. But hey, for free love it would be worth putting a little more effort into it.

Weeeeelllll, on second thought, maybe we should just put the effort into finding someone decent to spend a little time with. Getting rid of someone who turns out to be less than desirable is a lot easier when you don't live with them. LOL!

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I think my ex is

Submitted by spookyyank on April 3, 2008 - 11:18am.

the perfect example of that! It wasn't til I moved in with him that I was able to see his true colors. And, then getting rid of him???? Argh! That was harder than getting rid of cockroaches! Ya, I think the best (gag!) way is to just make the effort and find a decent guy the old fashioned way - drunk in a bar!

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LMAO!!! One tequila, two tequila, three tequila......

Submitted by Pussy Willow on April 3, 2008 - 11:23am.

floor! Maybe I'll just drink club soda. I can always fake being drunk. LOLOL!!!

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it IS as God intended

Submitted by spookyyank on April 3, 2008 - 11:49am.

If God didn't want us to hook up in ways that would force us into procreation he wouldn't have invented beer, karaoki or jello shots! Now, do you REALLY wanna piss off God by staying sober????

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LOLOLOL!!!!!

Submitted by Pussy Willow on April 3, 2008 - 12:20pm.

I'm laughing at the idea that we need to be "forced" into the act of procreation - sex, that is. LOLOL! Well, guess maybe in the last couple of years I would have had to be forced or, preferably, drunk.

But I was just planning on staying soder so I that could actually be aware of what was going on. I'm kind of a light-weight - the 1 tequila, 2 tequila thing really does apply to me. LOL! Cause wouldn't that be a pisser - I finally get laid and then miss it all cause I'm passed out.

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See, we're forced

Submitted by spookyyank on April 3, 2008 - 12:38pm.

in that God is looking for babies to come out of it by the *promise* of cheap, hot sex! And, what better way to get women {sob} like US to actually make the effort than to provide the beer goggles and the lack of sense???

Ah, yes - I too was hoping to make better choices by staying sober. The problem with that??? You get to see just how MANY idiots are walkin around single! It just doesn't pay to be me & you - we think too much! LOL

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I gotta tell you the truth, that's probably the main reason

Submitted by Pussy Willow on April 3, 2008 - 12:50pm.

I haven't gotten laid in so long. I've made those mistakes before and the mental hangover from them is sooooo bad and it lasts soooo loooonnnng. Men just laugh about the pooch they woke up next to and forget about it. It's so much easier for a guy to get rid of an unwanted female than it is for us gals to get rid of the losers we accidentally hook up with. If the loser himself isn't constantly hanging around hoping to score again, then everyone who knows about the incident is constantly bringing it up. But underlying it all is that queasy thought that just won't go away - "Oh my god, I actually had sex with that!"

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Sassys, you left out Big Oil.

Submitted by Pussy Willow on April 3, 2008 - 10:44am.

I read a very interesting article today talking about how Big Oil is deliberately not producing more oil because they make more money when there is less to go around. Supply and demand, baby. Big Oil is pulling in bigger profits than ever and has no plans to expand production until at least 2012 - TO KEEP THE PRICES HIGH!

So, if you're wondering where to invest your money, I'd say: 1. Exxon and 2. Corn and Wheat commodities. You're gonna need every dime you can scrape together because when the price of gas remains hellishly inflated it effects every single thing you buy, not just gas for your car. Electricity, food, clothes, toilet paper - everything. And food will go doubly high because of the emphasis being placed on ethanol, which, frankly, just isn't the saving grace it's cracked up to be.

Oh, and I would be remiss if I didn't pass on McCain's latest chatisement to the American public who, he says, are more concerned with the varieties of coffee available at their local Starbucks than with the running of the government. McCain says, if you don't like the way things are going, don't complain. Instead, run for public office, join the military or feed the homeless. Yeah, right. Like we need another elected official who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. Like the average family can afford to feed additional mouths when they are one paycheck away from homelessness themselves. And sure, join the military. We need more canon fodder for Iraq.

God, if that guy gets elected I'm going to illegally immigrate to Mexico.

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Canada pays better

Submitted by spookyyank on April 3, 2008 - 11:00am.

and let's not forget their health system! Of course, Mexico has hot young studs who LIKE their women "meaty". What was that old Rosie O'Donald joke? "De bone is for de DOG!" - something said to her from a Mexican native as to why they don't like skinny women!

But, yes - wouldn't be awesome if more Americans could invest in those things? It'd almost be like a fuck you to congress! And, McCain I find sooo funny! I do actually still laugh at that joke he made on Letterman about using Canadian coins in congress vending machines - "What are you gonna do about it??!!" - but, dude is seriously deluded and out of touch!

And, though I would never say that he's valid in those statements - something did just occur to me. When I lived in NY, on the occassion that I'd go out to dinner, I'd (say on cold nights) order a cup of soup to go and give it to the first cold, homeless person I saw. So, there might be something in that crazy that's kinda valid. I know - even in my situation - it'd not take much extra to make up some lunch meat sandwhiches to give out while I'm on my way to work. I really don't know why I stopped doing things like that. I guess the problems of the world begin to seem so overwhelming that it seems impossible to do anything. Dunno - just a thought.

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Aw, hell, Spooky, don't go getting all logical on me.

Submitted by Pussy Willow on April 3, 2008 - 11:17am.

LOL!!! Actually, those are pretty good ideas. Of course, I can't afford to eat out and I can't even buy lunch meat for me. Time are, indeed, tough around the ole PW homestead and I know several people who are in worse shape than I am. Still, I need to point out that a huge percentage of the homeless people that get fed do not get fed by the government, they get fed by the contributions of people like you and me (especially the ones with more money than you and me). So, yeah, the dude is seriously out of touch!

Yeah, I picked Mexico cause it's warmer than Canada and if I'm having trouble finding work and a place to live it'll be easier to rough it in Mexico. LOL!!!

I was actually being sarcastic about investing, since I'm lucky to have enough to invest in my gas tank to get to work every week.

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Throwing logic in your face?

Submitted by spookyyank on April 3, 2008 - 11:23am.

Dammit! I hate it when folks do that to ME! I should be ashamed of myself! And, even things like bologna is way more expensive than it used to be. It's crazy. And it is often the people with no money to throw around that help those people. Not folks like McCain!

I'm just hoping that when we're moved, I'll not become so wrapped up in my life-stuff that I forget what I just suggested! LOL

We'll see!

Well, you know I like the snow, so I'd do Canada. And, again should be ashamed of myself - I do kinda like white boys! And, ya just can't get whiter outside of the UK!

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Yeah, the thing is,

Submitted by Pussy Willow on April 3, 2008 - 12:24pm.

I really prefer white boys and I have a thing for certain accents. So, maybe I can just buy a down parka.

Not, you understand, that I have anything against a lovely, Latin lover. Oh man, I could tell you some stories.... Nope - not gonna go there. I have to be nice while I'm at work.

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That's ok

Submitted by spookyyank on April 3, 2008 - 12:40pm.

and I have a few stories of my own. {sigh) Good times!

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