Who you Calling a Racist?

Last nights debate could have been an eye opener for many and may be a turning point in this election. There has been much ado about Race and Racist issues being brought forward in this election. Last night's battle stayed true to that order.

Being a racist does not require that you are white. Several remarks in the last few days reveal that Obama has some serious issues around race. First of all lets remind ourselves that Obama is not 100% black. When asked if Clinton was the "first black president" Obama came back with a half sincere answer of needing to see him dance to determine if he was really a "brother". I find that stereotypical profiling by a "black man" repulsive.

Secondly, When Obama felt it necessary to say that those voting for him needed to vote for what was good for themselves, their children, and this nation and those voting for Hillary needed to vote for what was good for themselves, their children and this nation and well, Those voting for Edwards were .........well??? (Just white Males?) This was so very much a slam against the white male. As if the white male has no place at the democrat table is not only abusive but dangerous. Exactly who does Mr. Obama fell has helped him get to that table? Clue.... Bill Clinton maybe just a little? This assertion of Obama's that if you don't vote for me you are a Racist or if you vote for Clinton you are either a racist or a feminist is ridiculous. This party has always been about supporting the underdog and the downtrodden be it women, black, LGBT, disabled or other wise. Don't play that game at the table that feeds you.

Because Obama is running as the first black candidate there is a “hands off” don’t go there mentality that has overtaken this race. I think that is dangerous and misrepresentative of the party. We need to talk about the true value of race and the true value of bringing all of us together as one party representing the values of the diversity of our party. Not the desperation of one man to achieve the title of the first black president of the USA. Obama seems to have a constant need to play the race card and keep that issue at the top of this election. It's not playing well for the party and it's not getting him any votes from the democrats but rather from the republicans and independents who love this eruption from within the party. Of course they are going to support him being the nominee, but don’t look for those votes in the general. They are working hard to manipulate the democrats to insure their victory in November and we’re doing a pretty good job of allowing that to happen. What better way to secure the republican agenda than to get the opposition in-fighting and destroying the trust within the party? If Obama thinks this has been a bloody battle wait until he becomes the nominee and faces the Republican machine. He hasn't seen blood shed yet.

My point is, we have great candidates and we have much to gain from this election. I fear the point of "it's our election to loose" is very much the case and from what I experienced last night it appears we are well on our way to doing just that.

and see how everything is! I've assumed you're busy with the cmpaign! I *sigh* haven't been able to do a thing yet and it's kinda killing me! My car died and until yesterday, I was literally starnded in the boonies unable to go anywhere (or use the net for more than an hour at a time). But, within a few days we'll be off to sunny LA and pitching in! I can only hope there'll still be a need!

I have to agree with you - I'm sick of the race card being played and what Hilary said in the first place was not slighting Mr. King! I like Obama, but don't plan to vote for him. He needs more experience and something more to stand on.

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Not to worry, there are plenty of projects going on and Calif. will need you for sure for the Feb 5th vote no doubt.

it's busy for sure. Nevada was a caucus state so it became a really busy and very active place in a quick hurry. It will slow down now and ramp up again by Sept.

Hope you hit L.A. soon.
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Ya, I've been keeping an eye on things via the news (well, until the other day). I nearly flew out of my SKIN and raced to the tv when it was reported about that hotage situation in NH! As I walked in the door, my friend told me it'd just been covered and I started yelling "Where! WHERE!!!!". She was so shocked and just looked at me like I was crazy and asked "Why? Who cares?". Wraps her up in a nutshell, huh? Even when I explained that my friend was doing a lot of campaign work, so I kinda needed to know the state at least - she still didn't seem to get it. *sigh*

My plans have been foiled at every turn lately! I'm staying with my brother until we move and he's in Sacramento. Much easier, right???? Nope. For the last 3 days now I've been battling a bad tooth. Now that I feel a bit better - my face is still really swollen. Not something the public needs to see unless they DOUBT the value of dentists! LOL
But, I'll get there soon and hopefully, the race and gender crap will stop! Eh, who am I kidding! The only reason they're using tactics like those is that they have nothing else! Kinda makes you feel more confident doesn't it? They use every trick in the book to point out her gender, yet don't seem to be talking overly much about her past experience in office.

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Sassys

I get what you are saying and I agree that the last thing the Democrats need right now is to be divided...for ANY reason. The problem I have is the total inevitability of the Republicans winning....they are cheats and we KNOW it. They can and will fix this race. They are proud that the new voting machines are up and running...and they have said on more than one occasion, "If anything goes wrong on these machines no one need worry, we will go in there and "FIX" them"...That tells me that it's already a foregone conclusion...and the money being spent is downright disgusting. I hope I am woefully wrong on all these points, but a man that sends a bunch of kids off to war (minus his kids of course)for his own personal gain is more than capable of cheating in an election...he is no better than Chavez.

I totally get your postion and understand your concern. We all know that 2000 was a stolen election and they all know it too. A president appointed by the supreme court is hardly the American Way. Unless your last name is Bush of course.

2008 is going to take all of us working together to insure that a repeat is out of the question.

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Sassys

To be honest with you I know whom I will vote for...basically anyone that can beat the Republicans. I just hope that whoever does beat them actually makes a difference. Yeah I know I sound jaded...*ahem* I AM jaded. LOL.

No one has become more "jaded" over the past 7 years of this nut jobs administration than I. But the one think it has brought is my ability and my motivation to get off my hind side and do what I can to change the status quo. Democrats just better get their act together and stand united and resolved instead of floundering like a fish on the boardwalk. Don't apologize for what the world has taught you.... You have every reason to be skeptical of the system!!!!

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Sassys

I like the fact that I can "own" my Jadedness...wow I can say with all honesty that I never thought I would say that:)...Anyhoo, the Democrats do need to stop giving the Republicans so much ammo...they are all sitting back laughing and snickering at what they deem to be "Trifles" and they will be using all this CRAP to showcase why they are the "better more reliable" party. Infighting only furthers distrust and that will be a sure fire way to hand this election over to those evil bastards. I would LOVE to see Obama and Hilary team up against these idiots...That would be the absolute most powerful message this country could send to the world..."See not only did we vote in a woman...but a black guy too" Now stop calling us rascists etc. *Sigh*

Whenever the Democrats lose, the Republicans "fixed" the election. Absolutely hilarious!!

Bill Clinton being the first "black" president? I think most of the people who heard that realized he was joking. It was a ridiculous and demeaning question in the first place and didn't deserve anything more than a brush-off.

As for leaving Edwards out of his answer about who people should vote for, well bless your heart darlin'. As a white female I've been trying to get this through the heads of white males all my life - not everything is about you guys.

You say we have great candidates but, frankly, you seem predisposed against Obama. That's fine. Just don't expect everyone to accept your skewed view on everything that he says and does.

"Hands Off" works for some but not all. I don't have to play into the "white male" assertion and women don't have to play into the "little woman" assertion either. We do have an able and ready female candidate who represents women. Way too many women have succumbed to the male opinion and directive that she isn't capable of leading this nation. I think that is all about the white male way more than electing a black man. You have a right to defend his behavior just like I have a right to call him on it.

It may not be all about "us guys" but it's not all about Mr. Obama and his race either... any more than it’s all about the female in the race.

"We're just getting warmed up!"

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capable. The woman is brilliant. She's also very good at talking out of both sides of her mouth. I don't trust her to do any more than what is good for Hilary. I think she'd hang the population out to dry in a New York instant if it meant getting what she wants - just like our current Prez has done.

Frankly, I don't see Obama bringing up race. I see lots of other people bringing it up and forcing him to respond to the subject. Well, I see him feeling forced to respond. I think he should just get over it and ignore the BS. I'm sick of hearing about race and gender. I want to hear about the issues. I won't vote for a "Black" candidate and I won't vote for a "Female" candiate. I will vote for the candidate that I think shares my views most closely on the issues of the day.

Wanting to hear about the issues is something none of us may get to hear! There are a FEW in the media who are calling for the race and gender questions to stop, but far more are keeping it going.

I'll go ahead (as if it weren't already obvious!) and say my vote is going to Ms. Hilary. Not only do I think she's capable, but I also don't believe Obama IS. For me (like you) it comes down to who I believe will better the country. I think that Obama doesn't have the experience to keep us out of danger as well as making the choices that would be needed to better the country as a whole. Do I believe that Hilary will fix us? No. But, fixing us is not possible in one presidential term.

As to Obama and the race card - he's distancing himself NOW. But, he quite happily said to news cameras "Hey, she's the one who made a racist remark!". I'm still kinda dumbfounded as to how it was considered racist. She was pointing out the relevance of having a president who will make change - not demeaning Dr. King at all. So, ya, as a hispanic female, I saw it very much as playing the race card. Sure, I had already made my choice at that point, but it was still disheartening to see our very first black candidate use his race in order to get votes. Anyone in any minority group will agree that "the race card" is a very sensitive issue for us. So, I know I'm not the only minority who felt saddened by his initial reaction. He fell right into the trap and then regretted it when the nation cried foul.
It's almost a shame that he couldn't be Hilary's vice, huh?

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"she said, then he said". But I just can't help adding - your line about Obama falling into the "trap" was dead on. He was definitely goaded into responding. And to the people who don't see that he was goaded? Hell, I don't really care. I'm just sick of the subject and I think it keeps getting brought up as a smear tactic and by people who are just too damned ignorant to see beyond the subject.

Sorry, I can't agree with him being Hilary's vice. I'm just not a Hilary supporter. And I think one of the very best things about Obama is his lack of experience. I'm sick of career politicians and I think we need a fresh outlook.

And it's (I think) saddest that it's not being dropped because there isn't anything else to bitch about! Oh yes, both candidates see it as a smear campaign and are trying to move away from it. And, really, the experience thing is the only reason I'm not unsure who to vote for. If Hilary dropped out, my vote would swing right to Obana. I also like the idea of having a "fresh start". What worries me, though, is the situation we're in now - the war. To get us out of it will not be easy and it will take someone with previous white house experience to really know what to expect from congress. I figure, if anyone can get us on the right path, it's the woman who was knee deep in white house bullshit for so long. She may not have had the power, but she knows exactly what to expect at each turn.

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She'll do what butters her bread and that will probably be what the companies that are making a fortune on the war - the weapons makers, the aircraft makers, etc., etc., not to mention the oil companies - want her to do.

I disagree that previous White House experience is needed to get us out of the war. It's not like the President will be going it alone - whoever it is will have an army of advisors in addition to their Cabinet. And being forced to work with Congress, instead of fighting against it and going around it like Bush is doing, will be the very best thing I can think of.

Why is it always about race or gender or personal belief? What has happened to the "issues"? I have received dozens of e-mail messages about Obama being a Muslim...he went to a Muslim School as a child....I went to an Episcopal School as a child, but I am not an Episcopalian.

Obama belongs to both worlds...what's wrong with that?

I wonder about his credentials as far as having enough experience, but he is a very smart man and John Kennedy didn't have much experience neither did Clinton or Bush.

I like Obama, Clinton and Edwards.....I could vote for any one of them and feel like I picked a winner.

But which of them will be able to overcome the republican slime machine? This tit for tat has been minimal compared to what’s just around the bend.

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to learn to stand up to the "slime" machine. In the past they have acted like Americans are smart enough to see through it....apparently not....if they don't counter the attacks or buy ads which make the lies look like lies then they don't deserve to win and the rest of us will have to suffer. I.E. let Al Franken design a few ads.

you are blogging again....I have missed your clever input.

I have been very busy working at the state DNC office here in Nevada and on the Caucus which is now over and so will probably have a little more time to do some of the things I love to do. It's always nice to know you've been missed!!!

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Last Night on FAUX news there was actually a republican telling the truth. He stated that there are many republicans and independents that have been and continue to register as Democrats in order that they can vote in our primaries and participate in our caucuses. This allows them to stand or vote for Obama in order to make him the nominee. They feel strongly that they can beat Obama in the General and know they can not beat Clinton. I hope the Democrats get out there and vote their will because its going to take a lot of democrats to make up for this force of corruption that is trying once again to manipulate our party. The Polls tell us that the “hard core” democrats support Clinton and all the swing voters and independents are supporting Obama…… Now we know why. They have absolutely no intentions of voting for him in the general. Let’s not let them manipulate us into giving them the white house for another 4 years!

Today is Super Tuesday; Get out there and Vote!!!

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Sassys

I am on my way right now to vote for Obama! Yay!

Wow! Republicans are soooo corrupt aren't they? Democrats are the sweet innocent ones always getting manipulated. I guess that gives them somebody to blame when things don't go their way. I love the victim mentality.

But I do believe you’re going to know what the victim feels like as we continue to fall into a recession brought on by Republican mis-management and mis-leadings. You have but one bunch of criminals to thank for that fate.

Mad as hell --- you better believe it.... I will work my ass off to insure that we never end up with another corrupt bunch of criminals as those that are about to be expelled from our government.

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No victim mentality here? Let's see...in this post and the comments alone, the Republicans have:
1. Fixed the election
2. Caused infighting on the Democratic Party
3. Registered as Democrats to vote for Obama because apparently they think they have a better chance against him.

And yet, I've also read that Republicans are a bunch of stupid idiots in these comments as well. I'm not a Republican or a Democrat...but I think you should focus on the strengths of your party's candidates instead resorting toa bunch of name-calling and unsubstantiated "facts." There are horrible people on each side and calling them "slime" and other names really doesn't get anybody anywhere and it honestly ruins your credibility and sounds childish. And that's a bit sad because I can tell you people are smarter than that. How about letting it show a bit with intelligent conversation, eh?

I absolutely love how you said a Republican was telling the truth because s/he was saying something that fed into what you want to believe. If that same person had said the exact opposite, you would've called them a liar.

Republicans aren't the only ones that can be hypocritical.

Sassys

"Republicans aren't the only ones that can be hypocritical" Right? Somehow their lies always wind up killing and maiming, and our economy tanks, due to the Republicans brilliant lies...you are wrong on so many levels, but my guess is you voted for them to begin with and now you don't have any way to explain what they have singlehandedly done to this once great country. Some lies (e.g WMD) are worse than others, so yeah ALL politicians lie. UGH.

The end of the road is near and the reign of the religious zealots is soon to come to a screeching halt. No more justification for hocus pocus courts; Faith based initiatives to promote hate and fear, and no more war mongering to promote the big oil companies.

I can’t wait for the pulling of the plug. Congress finally stood up to Bush this week on his criminal FISA illegal spying and the world hasn't fallen apart yet... Bush the liar said he was going to stay home and not take his trip to Africa if the congress didn't pass his "get out of jail free pass” They denied his wish and he left town....to Africa…. What a Piece of Shit!!! Bush is a criminal plain and simple. He vetoed the extension of the FISA bill because it didn’t grant any immunity…. Guess that tells us the value of his FISA spying… All he’s looking for is immunity for him and his cast of criminals. I hope he enjoys Buba’s company in the big house…. I think we better send him some soap on a rope! Second thought….. Let the games begin.

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Sassys

Soap on a rope? Heh, I pity the soap and rope. Guess what I read recently?? The KKK are planning on voting for Obama...because they don't want a woman president in the White House! Now there's a blog for you!! I will PM you so you can give me an e-mail address, I will send you the link...I would do it here but I don't want to advertise the KKK. You will be amazed...trust me.

White Males can not stand the idea of a woman in charge. I'm surprised white males even sleep with women they are so damn afraid of them. They probably wouldn’t either if they weren’t even more intimidated by the alternatives!

KKK pretty much represents the values of the White Male as a whole.... Barefoot a pregnant rings a bell???

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You gotta be kidding me!! The KKK represents the values of the white male as a whole?? I'm sure there are a FEW that agree with the KKK, but making a blanket statement like that is like saying Obama is a member of the Black Panthers. I can't even rationalize with that kind of ignorance.

So much for trying to have a rational exchange of ideas. I guess I can forget about that in here.

And by the way, it's Martial Law - not Marshal Law. Marshal Law was a comic book character. And if Bush does declare Martial Law before the election, I'll go on record and say I'll personally kiss every Democrat's ass.

and yes, they still think that the place for a woman is in the kitchen......
Denial is not a river!!!

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Who is this "they"?

I'm done with this. You're so incredibly illogical that you're just a waste of my time. No wonder Democrats have no credibility when it's full of people who say all white males are essentially part of the KKK and we all think women should be barefoot and pregnant.

That's just utterly stupid.

Tell me why they are flocking to Obama?? Saying change doesn't make it happen and he sure as hell hasn't provided any specific plans on what that change is... White males are scared to death of having a woman in a position of power is the point. This is a trait of both white males and the KKK … doesn’t make it right but the fact remains! Duhhhh

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I'm not exactly sure where I was wrong. Don't try to say that Democrats have never lied or been hypocritical or done things that led to thousands of deaths. Ever heard of Ted Kennedy? Or the fact that Bill Clinton had Bin Laden in the cross heirs more than once and decided to let him go?

And no, I didn't vote Republican last time. So there goes that assumption. I actually hate the two party system we have. I couldn't care less who wins because they all have their own agenda no matter who it is. And to say one person single-handedly ruined the country or one person can single-handedly fix it is just preposterous.

All I'm saying is it would be nice if people were a little more logical about the things they say. Is that too much to ask?

After 7 years of Repulsivcan rule our nation has become fully aware of the lies that got us into an unjust war and has managed to get hundreds of thousands killed if not millions.

George Bush and his cast of criminals should be behind bars for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Because of their lies our nation, under his horrendous leadership, has managed to end up 10 trillion dollars in debt.... More debt than any US president in history... Yes, LIES is the issue.

On the rare occasion a Repulsivcan tells the truth it deserves noting!

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Sassys

There hasn't been too much "noting" going on than huh?

No doubt we'll get a right wing opinion on that one!!!! LOL

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The wonder IF there will even be an election in '08.

I would put nothing and I do mean nothing past this criminal ASS! He just may declare Marshal Law and therefore no elections held and he can continue his ruination of the nation.

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I was going to email

never fear

I thought so, AR

Hmmm AmRhet

We must be vigulant!!!!

And tis wise to also be wary AmRhett

Jaded makes us get focused on the things we can change

Thanks AmRhett

I love it

A "half-sincere" answer from Obama on

totally expected response....

Oh, I totally agree, AR, that Hilary is absolutely

Well, PW

And see? We keep on dragging out the whole

Here, here, PW!

Hilary talks out of both sides of her mouth on the war.

Why can't we just talk about people?

Winners each and everyone

The Democrats Need

I am Glad

Thanks Ms Zola

Republicans are picking our Democrat Nominee!

I agree with AmRhet here!

Wow! Republicans are soooo

No victim mentality here!

No victim mentality here?

I absolutely love how you

Well Chadwick

They're getting nervous Sassys

Hahahaha! AR I LOVE YOU!!

Obama will probably win this election because of White Males

You gotta be kidding me!!

Say what you will but they are freaking out over the prospects!

Who is this "they"? I'm

LOL... Don't let the door hit you where the good lord split ya!

I'm not exactly sure where I

The issue was the rarity of the truth!

LOL AmRhett!

Shall we try notating??? LOL

Some People are getting kind of Nervous

With our "Little Hitler" Bush one should be nervous

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