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I am going to give this an absolutely fair review, which means there will be good parts and bad parts. Learn what you will.

Assuming they pay after 30 days like they say they will, I have made a fair amount of money off Payperpost. I enjoyed it, and I was able to learn about some cool new products while making some money. Not bad by any account.

This is where the positive part of the review more or less ends. Today, I received a letter from them that stated they are no longer accepting any blog entries from sites such as Bloggerparty (strike one), Writingup (strike 2), or Blogcharm (I'm out). The reason behind this is because they claim they want "quality" blogs for their advertisers. Fair enough. Who doesn't. They seem to feel, possibly through asking them, that their advertisers do not want their ads on websites that are solely dedicated to making money. Again, fair enough. But let's examine it closer.

Would they like their ads on a corporate blog? Let's say I have the power to post on Coca-Cola's blog. First, that would pretty much make me the CEO of Coca-Cola, since they really don't let just any random Joe post there. Or at the very least, I am doing some ghost-blogging for Coke. Either way, I am not concerned about the $2.50 to $25 they will pay per entry. Second, I'm still selling something. Just as much as the website that offers computer game reviews in the hopes that you will cruise over to Amazon.com and buy from them. Just as anyone on the net. See, Bloggerparty and the other sites are the most honest blogs you are going to get on the net. I talk about my building, my kids, my family, my friends, my hobbies, and the rest of my life. To borrow a quote from someone else that blogs for them, they said that quality boggers find this sort of blogging anathema. They wouldn't touch paid blogging for any amount of money. I would be curious to find out exactly what type of site meets this particular standard of "not being there to make money". Myspace?? Tried it once. It was rejected because they couldn't access the page.

Which brings me to my next point. Let's be honest with one another, shall we? Who is going to listen if you try and get people to click on a link from a Myspace page anyway? With Payperpost not being privy to my google clicks, I can tell you that I've gotten a few since I've been doing these. I also have what I consider a pretty decent friend list here. That means that when I write something, these people are notified that I have posted something new. All of that translates to more readership for the advertiser. It's like pretending that you are not in the business of making money while you are trying to make it hand over fist.

Also, if they want quality, they have a funny way of showing it. One post asked for you to go to a crowded place and yell how much you love payperpost. It paid an obscene amount. Another, which you can find if you look through my posts, asked you to spell "payperpost.com" with food. Why? Because this screams "quality" to someone?? Or are they referring only to the writing style? Funny. My English professors, and the Governor and American Bar Association who gave me an award for my writing thought my quality was up to snuff. The simple fact of the matter is this. They prefer that people do not mention that they are writing for them because it seems more natural. I completely agree with them on this. Which is why I write that I would own certain products for various reasons. It brings the reader in, lets them get to know something about me, and it tells them that I think this is a product worth writing about. Because there are some things I won't write about, even if allowed to say something negative about them. This opposed to simply being a more invasive, and wordy, form of advertising. In other words, if they want me to write about lawn bowling, I will have fun with it, and hopefully, my readers will too. If they want me to wax poetic about the International Lawn Bowling League, perhaps the League would be able to hire a professional marketing firm and find other ways to tell people than a word-of-mouth campaign.

In closing, I understand where they are coming from, but I don't have a clue where they are going. They want quality posts. Good. Define what you think makes a quality post. They want blogs to market items and websites via word of mouth, but not seem like they are doing it word of mouth. You lost me there. They want their advertisers to get the best exposure they can, while putting it in the confines of appearing on a non-commercial blog that is 3 months old, has 20 posts, and the entry is between 10-300 words, with some requiring that you must write about it in a positive light. Good luck.

A note to Payperpost... My suggestion is that you relax these new rules a bit. I truly do understand the motivation behind them. If I was paying for people to talk about my product, I'd want them to put some effort into it. And however it may seem to you guys, I have. I did not blog these many words on just a whim. I have other blogs. They get almost no traffic, and they are devoted to obscure hobbies. I cannot and will not post about various products or websites on a blog devoted to carving goose eggs with a Dremel tool. That doesn't serve your advertisers or me very well. I had fun, and I'm glad for the opportunity. If this is the end, so be it. At least I won't owe any taxes. But if you can accept that I really do mean the things I write when I blog for your clients, that I take the time to get to know my readers (and vice versa), and that my readership has gone up as a result of working with your company (which is good for your clients as well), then I hope you will reexamine these latest policies. Either way, I met the terms of this offer. I hope it will not be my last.

Good luck to those of you who choose to continue on with http://www.payperpost.com

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If I weren't so damned tired I might have said it half as eloquantly as yourself. I too received the e-mail and couldn't begin to understand where they were going to pick up the cheap advertising they received from us. I was starting to feel like I was making a contribution to y household wih my writing rather then hoping to make the big sale that never comes through.

And whatreally bites, for lack of a better term, is that my first payperpost was finally approved and I have two more pending. As I scrolledthrouh the current opportunities available to me, I was excited to see that the original 20 posts had expanded to 48! I thought, "Damn, I must be doing something right for a change." Well, not so.

I think I'll e-mail them for some clearer specifics on this change in hopes of retaining some work for hire.

Spikeo

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IntricateGirl's picture

Well, and not one minute

Well, and not one minute after I get finished, I logon there.

It's baaaaaaack. "Write 'payperpost.com' on your forehead in black marker and get $X!" with X being a nice chunk of pocket change.

I think quality is the last thing they need to worry about with stuff like this.

Ya know what? I almost did something VERY stupid. I almost posted exactly how they could solve their problem. And then my entrepreneurial brain kicked in and said something along the lines of, "What are you- stupid?!? Start your own company!"

And I very well might.

But if you want to be like them, you'll have to emulate. -Ayria

That's a great idea!

Be sure to let me know about it. I can help you get the word out( I only have 14 blogs and even more if you include my kids blogs on myspace, xanga, mi gente and tag world!!!!!), get plenty of bloggers on board and help you make the $$$$$$!!!!!

Keep me posted! I'm sure excellent bloggers like Sharon HH and writingdreams will be interested as well!

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I'll write you about it

I'll write you about it sometime Classy1, but it might take me a couple of days. Check your PM's then.

But if you want to be like them, you'll have to emulate. -Ayria

I just got approved through them

and then got the letter. I wrote them back about how unhappy I was that I gave them my social security number like TWO days ago and now they tell me that none of my blogs are eligible. I want proof that they've deleted my number from their system. BAH!

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Brenna

I didn't even think about that...

I have many blogs on other sites, so it won't really effect me...but I think it was unwarranted. There are many instances where writingup and bloggerparty come up on the top of a page for a search on google. What difference does it make? Most people blogging are doing it for the fame-so that it leads to $$$. The others are just doing it for the money-period!

We just don't hide the fact that we are trying to make money. Others just want to hide behind the pretty little ploy-"Oh, it's just a hobby"-that is until it lands them a job in a magazine or a cable show....

Wouldn't you agree?

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I told them I took offense...

... that they would indicate that my blog is of lower quality because of where it is hosted. They just said that this was coming from their advertisers, not them. I don't get it. Any blog that has google ads is clearly trying to make money. Whatever.

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Well, and I have made a lot

Well, and I have made a lot of money from them. I don't necessarily have a problem with them.

BUT... let me counter their point that it is coming from their advertisers.

A) They've been averaging probably 25-35 offerings a day. They currently have 48 at the time I post this, and that is more than I've seen since I've been using it. What I'm getting at is that they have just cut their bloggers by WAY more than half. Now, I don't have a clue what their business model is, but let's say that the client wants their product to be reviewed on 100 different sites. That is what they have paid for. Let's also say, for the sake of example, that it is software they want to advertise. Remove Bloggerparty, Writingup, and Blogcharm, and for the sake of argument, let's get rid of quite a few others too since they said that the blog-for-pay sites are not welcome. Remove the blogs by corporations which are devoted to selling their own products. That leaves what? Five blogs on the internet that are qualified to discuss their product?? Suddenly, Payperpost does not fulfill their contractual obligations, and it goes under. See D for more on this. There is a chance it isn't like this however, so let's move on.

B) I'm not going to go into details, but I suspected that they were going to do this. It revolves around a question they asked me, and that question did NOT come from the advertiser. It came from Payperpost. TRANSLATION: I'm not so sure I buy that it is coming 100% from their clients.

C) Some advertisers don't care for it, or they expected to get positive reviews, but got negative ones. Well, you are either catering to a small number of clients who are not going to be happy no matter what you do, or you are looking for an excuse to do it anyway. See, this company especially has been torn apart by people as everything that is wrong with blogging for pay. And that was before it started. So now, you have people that are happy with it, and this is the very group you turn off. Huh??

D) You allow an unlimited number of blogs to start with. Then you limit it to three. Let's knock out over half the blogs and bloggers. Unless they have forty million blogs, each dedicated to a specific subject, but none of them intending to make money, not a single one of their bloggers will get close to three blogs a day. So, under counterpoint A, one of two things is happening. One is they REALLY mess up their ability to meet their obligations. The other is that the advertiser pays each time they get a blog written. Say they get 1. Will they feel their advertising budget is better spent on that one blog, or on hiring an SEO expert??? In other words, no matter how they are doing it, they lose.

At any rate- I'm leaving this sucker up after the posting expires, because if Payperpost won't pay me, the hits from google on this entry alone are gonna be enough to send my kids to college. lol

But if you want to be like them, you'll have to emulate. -Ayria

Well Written & Interesting

Hello Intricate Girl and Responders,

Today was the first time I came across information on PayPerPost and you did a great job dissecting it.

I hope all of you will take a look at this new blog forum I created and contribute your thoughts. (I've added a threas for PayPerPost too.) These are exactly the types of informative and thoughtful posts I hope to foster there. Thanks!

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Why Are You Just Blogging on Community Blogging Sites??

I actually think there is a difference between sites like BP and WritingUp and hosting your own blog somewhere else. Yes, the content on both blogs may be the same... but the way it's perceived by readers is very different. At least in my opinion...

Here the thing... on sites like BP "anybody" can blog. So on any given day, your blog posts will be mixed in with other posts about Indian celebrities, politics, recipes, incessant rambling, etc... and you have no control over that. Whereas if you hosted your blog on another site (like Blogspot) where only YOUR posts showed up... it's quite different. You're able to customize the look, build up a REAL readership, offer email updates, track your stats, etc...

Now I'm not saying that BP is a bad site. I love BP! But if you're truly in this for the money... or for the skill - it should only be ONE PART of your game plan. Don't rely solely on community blogging sites. Create your own blog - Blogspot.com is a great FREE site where you can host your blog AND have Google Adsense ads... and you get to keep 100% of the earnings.

I reached the $100 Google payout mark a couple months ago... and the bulk of that money was from a blog that's hosted on Blogspot, not from BP.

I know I haven't been blogging here lately, but I do still read a lot of the posts on here. Many times I've wondered if some of you blog somewhere other than a community blogging site, because I think a lot of you have GREAT content.

For example, ModelMom - do you realize that your blog (if you were to host it somewhere else, on your own) could be HUGE? The fact that you're a model AND a new mother would appeal to SO many people... plus you keep putting out fresh, interesting content. That's something that not a lot of people are able to do.

There's others... I can't mention you all, but so many of you have great content... that you could easily use to host a "niche" blog that was all your own.

So, while I don't think that blogs on BP are of "lower quality", I do think that you're cheating yourself out of potential earnings, growth and opportunities (like payperpost) by JUST blogging here... or on other community blogging sites.

It's a great feeling to realize that people are reading your stuff because they WANT to and not just because they stumbled across it...

Learn how to cross-promote your blogs... and network with other bloggers. Believe me, this will open up sooo many doors and opportunities for you.

If you're not sure how to get started, feel free to PM me... or I'm sure that theclassy1 or realitycheck (both host blogs on Blogspot) would be happy to help as well.

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IntricateGirl's picture

I won't argue with what you

I won't argue with what you wrote. It is a good idea. I will say that even with Blogspot, if you have ads, they may construe it as existing solely to make money. That's what the big argument is about. They specifically mention these sites, but it's the others that are not mentioned that people want to know about. Also, the bigger argument is that they come across as hypocrites.

It's also not something I can wrap my brain around. Blogs such as those, FOR ME, are like a diary. I have some. But they are devoted to very specific hobbies, or they are private and for friends only. I've never been much of a diary writer, and I cannot see writing just for the sake of putting words down. So, I update those once every few months. It's my online equivalent of a Christmas newsletter. This is my "work", those are my "play".

But if you want to be like them, you'll have to emulate. -Ayria

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The problem with BP

Myspace or yours hit the nail on the head - "on sites like BP "anybody" can blog". I have to agree from my own personal experiences that I have made triple my earnings by having my own personal niche site. Being able to control the content is what advertisers are looking for, for a number of reasons -

1. They know they don't have to fight competitor ads of the same nature.

2. They know that your content will be appropriate. Lets say the YMCA wants to put up an ad. The last thing the YMCA wants is their ad that they paid good money for to be displayed next to a blog about pornography. And that's the honest risk they have to run if they use sites such as BP. Is it fair to those of you who have real, quality blogs? No. But at the same time, the advertiser has to do what is in their best interest.

3. With most quality personal sites advertisers can see how many visitors you get, how often you post, etc. That kind of thing is difficult to tell on many community sites.

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My BP strategy

Since I'm too lazy to cross-post (and it kinda bugs me to do it anyway), what I do, as many of you have likely detected by now, is (for the most part) post here and then put a pointer to the post on my Blogspot site.

I know I get hits from both audiences. I do not know, because I have not yet decided to go down the heavyweight "blog for pay" path, what the relative contributions are, or what my earnings would be if I loaded up the Blogspot page with ads.

If some of you experts have reason to think this approach is dumb, let me know.

Still Following Your Post Here

I have to tell that these comments are very insightful. It's obvious that you have seriously thought about blogging from several angles and are not just typing nonsense off the top of your heads like so many entries clogging up cyberspace.

I agree that this whole thread should get indexed in search engines and will end up being something that will cause many people to stop and think about the way they have been approaching blog writing.

Now about this post single-handedly sending the kids to college, you might have to settle for it just paying for the textbooks!

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The thing is...

Isn't any site that hosts google ads a "blog for pay" site?

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I agree Brenna....

like I told IntricateGirl, a blogger has a motive to blog. Either they want attention, want to spread their beliefs or want to cause a buzz about their writing, product or personality. In the end, these all lead to financial opportunities. You wouldn't be writing for no reason or benefit...

Most A list bloggers are really looking for an opportunity. Whether it's being a journalist, a famous personality or more income from a better job or from ads. In the end, it all leads to more money. Don't tell me they do it as a hobby without ever thinking it may lead them to riches or at least enough money to pay off the debt....

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One final comment, and then

One final comment, and then I think I've said almost everything there is to say on this topic. I've had a blogger.com account for a while, but never really bothered with it much. I decided to go there today and get it started, not as a replacement blog for payperpost, but as an outlet for my creative writing (and because you are all saying the adsense hits are really coming over there).

And what I noticed is a potential firestorm.

If you have a blogcharm account, load it up right next to a blogger.com account and check out the difference. If you don't have one, Here is the Blogger account. Here is the Blogcharm account.

Perhaps someone can clue me in, because these look like twin sites to me.

But if you want to be like them, you'll have to emulate. -Ayria

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Potential Firestorm??

IntricateGirl Says:

One final comment, and then I think I've said almost everything there is to say on this topic. I've had a blogger.com account for a while, but never really bothered with it much. I decided to go there today and get it started, not as a replacement blog for payperpost, but as an outlet for my creative writing (and because you are all saying the adsense hits are really coming over there).

And what I noticed is a potential firestorm.

If you have a blogcharm account, load it up right next to a blogger.com account and check out the difference. If you don't have one, Here is the Blogger account. Here is the Blogcharm account.

Perhaps someone can clue me in, because these look like twin sites to me.

But if you want to be like them, you'll have to emulate. -Ayria

I'm sorry, but I fail to see what the problem is. They are both blogs sites and both backgrounds are black. But that's where the similarities end.

As far as getting Adsense hits on Blogspot - yes, I've found it's easier to promote good, popular content if you host your blog on Blogspot, which results in more readers and more clicks. But you still have to write content that people want to read...

The other advantage (and I mentioned this in my previous comment) is that you can customize the look of your blog. You can choose your layout, change the font, add links, pictures... basically you're in control of the entire blog. This isn't the case on a community blogging site.


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I have no idea if you are

I have no idea if you are familiar with the payperpost email that was sent out, or blogcharm as a blog hosting site.

The email they sent said, "The biggest update of note is we will no longer be accepting blogs from blog for money advertising sites such as blogcharm, bloggerparty and writingup.com."

On blogcharm, it is more difficult to enter adsense information than on blogger.com, because you must know at least minimal HTML to insert the code. With Blogger, you simply enter your info and they take care of the rest. Furthermore, blogcharm is completely customizable. I can change every single aspect of the page, including the template, font, links, pictures, etc.

So I ask again, how are they different? The scope of this discussion is focused on payperpost, and their decision to not allow paid blogs on sites that they consider for pay only. They have specifically mentioned Blogcharm, which has no fundamental differences in its structure from Blogger. As far as whether one gets more hits or is easier to use, this is irrelevant to the scope of this discussion.

I can go in and create a site on Blogcharm that EXACTLY mimics one on Blogger, and they will not accept it, simply because of where it's hosted. There IS a difference between those type sites and places such as writingup or bloggerparty, but there is not a difference between them. THAT is the biggest argument against them.

But if you want to be like them, you'll have to emulate. -Ayria

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I do understand the argument...

IntricateGirl Says:

I have no idea if you are familiar with the payperpost email that was sent out, or blogcharm as a blog hosting site.

The email they sent said, "The biggest update of note is we will no longer be accepting blogs from blog for money advertising sites such as blogcharm, bloggerparty and writingup.com."

On blogcharm, it is more difficult to enter adsense information than on blogger.com, because you must know at least minimal HTML to insert the code. With Blogger, you simply enter your info and they take care of the rest. Furthermore, blogcharm is completely customizable. I can change every single aspect of the page, including the template, font, links, pictures, etc.

So I ask again, how are they different? The scope of this discussion is focused on payperpost, and their decision to not allow paid blogs on sites that they consider for pay only. They have specifically mentioned Blogcharm, which has no fundamental differences in its structure from Blogger. As far as whether one gets more hits or is easier to use, this is irrelevant to the scope of this discussion.

I can go in and create a site on Blogcharm that EXACTLY mimics one on Blogger, and they will not accept it, simply because of where it's hosted. There IS a difference between those type sites and places such as writingup or bloggerparty, but there is not a difference between them. THAT is the biggest argument against them.

But if you want to be like them, you'll have to emulate. -Ayria

Actually I do understand the argument. In yesterday's comment I simply tried to point out "why" they probably felt that advertising on community blogging sites would not be a good investment for them or their advertisers.

And you're right - they won't accept an entry from a community blogging site (like Blogcharm) BECAUSE of where it's hosted and because of the repuation these sites have. Just take a look at the last 20 posts on this site alone... some good, some boring, some spam, etc... Like it or not, community blogging sites do not have the best reputation.

But yes, they serve a purpose in the blogging world... mainly for "community"... and also for experience and promotional purposes...

Blogger is not a community blogging site and it is host to some of todays most popular blogs. I very much doubt that Payperpost would reject a posting on a blog like One Red Paperclip.

No, you probably won't be able to change the minds of Payperpost... people can protest till they're blue in the face, but the facts will still be the same. I'm not suggesting that anybody abandon their blogs here and host them on a site like Blogger or something similar. But people should know that they have that option... especially if they are really in this for making money.

You mentioned that on Blogger you simply enter your info and your Adsense ad appears. This is only true for your 1st ad... you are free to add more (in accoradance with Google Adsense rules) and yes, you have to know HTML to enter them. The option to have multiple ads is probably a big part of why people make more money on Blogger... and that has everything to do with conversation.

After all, when it comes down to it, you're simply talking about an opportunity to make more money, are you not?

One other thing, have you (or anybody else) asked Payperpost if they would accept a Blogger blog?


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I do not see Blogcharm as

I do not see Blogcharm as being any more of a community blogging site than Blogger. I did exactly the experiment I suggested above. I cut and paste the template from blogger and put it onto blogcharm. If I sat down at the computer long enough, I could make it almost perfectly identical. They both have ads for the site at the top, and in most other respects, they are the same. So that's what I'm missing. Why do you feel Blogger is not a community blog, while Blogcharm is?

As you've demonstrated with One Red Paperclip, there are some BIG blogs hosted on Blogger. I will say that given their TOS, if they actually follow them, they would have to turn down One Red Paperclip. If they do not follow their own TOS, it's hypocrisy. It's a total case of them being damned if they do and damned if they don't, because their advertisers would want it to appear on a site with that much traffic, but if they open it up to them, it opens it up to a million others that they don't want.

I disagree with you on the general thought that these type sites have a bad reputation. I think it depends on the individual user. I think the posts here have been excellent. They've discussed the topic at hand. And if you want to get right down to it, that's the best form of advertising. We've spent 20 posts and many more visits to this page to talk about payperpost. That advertising was a VERY good deal to them, even if most of it was negative.

As far as my Blogger account, I wrestled with not doing adsense on it, and I truly mean it when I say that I hope I never make a dime from it. That's not why that site exists. It is why this one is here.

Finally, I have not asked payperpost if they would accept a Blogger entry. I pretty much have washed my hands of them. There are enough other places that seem to have ironed out some of the difficulties and though I haven't yet made as much with them, I will. I've got my own integrity to answer for. I have to believe there is a reason why Payperpost was getting crucified before they offered a single opportunity, and Blogitive is only being mildly grumbled about by "serious bloggers" (whatever that is). If someone else wants to check, that's cool. I don't care, because I cannot at this time conceive posting anything else for them.

But if you want to be like them, you'll have to emulate. -Ayria

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Why? Like your own post

Why? Like your own post here contributed so much to the conversation???

But if you want to be like them, you'll have to emulate. -Ayria

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On re-reading the Payperpost thread

Couple of points. Perhaps I'm repeating what others have said without crediting them, if so, my apologies. But perhaps I see a theme that has been obscured with all the digressions.

1. A startup will experiment. Then go with what is working. As quickly as possible, otherwise their own chances of making money and attracting investment are nil. I can see the sense in an operation like Payperpost opening the field to all, then discovering in short order which of their participating blogs is attracting all the noise. They then will move quickly to maximize profits and minimize efforts - they will concentrate on the paying blogs.

An analogy. I grow protozoa and algae in culture as part of my living. There are official repositories of these cultures scattered around the world, each one maintaining hundreds if not thousands of different kinds of microbes. Typically, about ten of these hundreds or thousands of cultures are of things that people will actually buy. If these repositories were a business, those ten cultures would be all that they'd keep. The rest cost them money. Only philanthropy, public and private, keeps these repositories open. And Payperpost and its ilk are not charities.

2. All advertisers prefer consistency in what they are buying, in theme and quality. An individual blogsite features the work of one person, or a set of like-minded people if it's a team blog. An advertiser has reason to believe that such a blog will reach a specific audience, and if the audience is one that the advertiser wishes to reach, the advertiser will happily invest.

I agree with Myspaceoryours, Bloggerparty lacks consistency, in both theme and quality. I've been here since Day 1, and I've seen posts on just about everything. Some posts are sublime, others are, frankly, illiterate - and I'm speaking of those posted by people whose first language is ostensibly English. An advertiser seeking to reach the sports market doesn't want to see James Champion's Sports Betting next to posts about the feminist take on the Duke lacrosse debacle. An advertiser trying to reach the devout Christians reading Atlanticworld doesn't want those readers to be on the same planet as Evil Bob, never mind looking at his cack-handed pornography on an adjacent post.

Yes, you might think that the composite world of Bloggerparty attracts more readers overall. But to the advertisers in this niche-market world, all those hits are empty. Because most of them are not in the target audience. Better 30 readers, and they're all potential buyers, than 3,000 readers, none of whom are actually reading the sponsored blog. Or, worse, will read once and never return.

The world of sales and advertising is incredibly sophisticated. Far more so than I understand, far beyond any discussion that I have seen here. Many of its techniques are no different from those of propaganda - indeed, there have long been rumors that the most important present-day sales tools were devised by one Dr. Joseph Goebbels.

I confess, with apologies to my friends online, and to those who need the cash, that I cannot read lines about "making money on the Internet" without hearing Pink Floyd in my head. There are still, I think, some thing that are more important than money.

Maybe that's why I'm broke ...

IntricateGirl's picture

I agree with everything you

I agree with everything you wrote here. And as a company, they are free to limit posters to little green men from Mars if they want. But I'm just as free to not like it very much.

"An advertiser has reason to believe that such a blog will reach a specific audience, and if the audience is one that the advertiser wishes to reach, the advertiser will happily invest."

Absolutely true. But please tell me what kind of audience the owners of "The Break Up Song" wish to reach. It features an overweight black woman in not enough clothing who will rap that your soon-to-be ex is stinky and weird.

But if you want to be like them, you'll have to emulate. -Ayria

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But what is the solution?

But what do you suggest as a solution? They can't allow every blog in the world (as discussed ealier) so they must put some form of limitation. At the same time, do you expect them to hand select or pre screen every single applicant? Even if they decide not to allow blogger blogs, which they may do very soon, what makes people think that a paying blog won't have the exact same content?

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Why not? Other companies

Why not? Other companies accept such blogs. It's apparently working for them. But as I've said, it's up to them how they want to run it. They DEFINITELY don't pay me to come up with a solution for them.

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But they are accepting the individual blog...

...not the blog next to it. If they accept my blog they can look at the content and see what kind of quality I have and what I write about. Users can go directly to my blog (and some do) so it's not like they have to see the other content. I don't quite get it.

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It's All About The Money

Thanks for your clear explanation, OC :) I think it boils down to this - Payperpost exists to make money. Advertisers pay Payperpost bloggers... but expect to MAKE money from those advertisements. If the majority of their posts end up on blogs where people are just going to ignore them or worse, never even see them... then of course, they're going to cut that off.

I don't exactly think that Payperpost is ONLY looking for blogs with no advertisements. Maybe, I'm wrong... because if that's the case, there probably aren't many to pick from. But I think they are wanting to advertise on individual blogs where posts aren't all stacked next to one another and of course, blogs that have a regular readership...or a specific target audience. THAT was my point.

Never blogged on Blogcharm, but it was my understanding that it was a site like BP/WU... to be honest, the extent of my Blogcharm experience is seeing the few times that Bugsey blogged about it. Blogger is a site that hosts MANY individual blogs...

As far as the whole Payperpost vs. Blogitive deal... at least Payperpost is entertaining (to some), but I honestly can't stand Blogitive. You can spot a Blogitive post a mile away ("web release" anyone?) and I swear that if I see one more post about car insurance I'll scream! ;-) I made about $50 w/them months ago... and then just couldn't take it anymore...

I have nothing against people blogging for money -- isn't that why we're all here? People will do what works... and if someone is making $5/post compared to pennies a day with Adsense, then I can't blame them for going with that. But people should realize that there are other ways to make good money besides clogging up the blogosphere with spam... that's all. And if I'm going to be spammed, at least let me be entertained... hmmm, somebody should post "The Break Up Song" ;-)


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LOL! I did post the breakup

LOL! I did post the breakup song!! Check back in my posts, and it's in there somewhere.

But if you want to be like them, you'll have to emulate. -Ayria

quick heads up for ya

payperpost is no longer accepting any ads from bloggerparty or community-like blogs.

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