But it protected her health and safety. At least, that is what they want us to believe.

It sounds like you might have thought I was pro-life. I'm not. I'm pointing out that nobody chooses an abortion out of convenience. It's an invasive procedure and is usually accompanied by a lot of hard decision making and soul searching. I wish anti-choice people could develop some empathy, even if you can't morally agree with another viewpoint.

Abortions do promote health and keep women safe. You might want to take a look at statistics of pregnant women and their mortality rate.

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That's almost idiotic. Abortion doesn't feel good. It's a difficult choice. It is not convenient. It is most decidedly inconvienient to have surgery. I am sick and tired of ignorant, right wing fascists trying to erase the separation of church and state! I am thankful that we live in a secular, humanist society. When religion and politics mix, you get things like sharia law, and all manner of violation of human rights.

In fact, I do have a leg to stand on. I was raised by a Baptist Minister. I have a BA in Philosophy. I studied all the major world religions from an acedemic viewpoint, not one clouded by irrational presuppositions such as, "The word of God is true in it's literal form and any contradiction we see in it is either a function of human error or divine mystery."

By the way, do you eat meat?

I read the posts that you listed. I am glad that modern medicine has increased the birth rate. That has little do with the abortion question.

So the answer to children dying is to kill them before they have a chance to die? Why don't we do that with senior citizens as well. We should kill the retards also so they don't have to suffer. But wait, we should have killed them before they were born. What was I thinking?

Man oh man, Tammy, sometimes these ignorant fuckers just make me wanna forget about my non-violent lifestyle. Especially the Catholics, who both forbid birth control AND abortion.....

The only reason that abortion is such an issue is because many people do not want to take responsibility for their actions. Sex outside of marriage is wrong. Abortion is a way to clean up the problem. That way people can continue to have sex without having to worry about the responsibility of marriage or children. God forbid that anyone should practice abstinence.

Birth control.

This comes from a man who obviously has never had an abortion (being a man and all) and who likely has never been with a partner who has. I, on the other hand, have been with someone when they went through and abortion, and a avoidance of responsibility is not the first thing I would have thought of. Whether or not you agree with it, it is traumatic.

Also, sex outside of marriage is wrong? What makes a marriage then? The license? What happened before paper and before a government to issue it. Oh wait, I know the rhetoric: Marriage is a sacred pact between two adults in the eyes of God. So how do people in India ge married, since they don't believe in the "One True God"...... Who married Adam and Eve, they didn't have paper for the license, anyone to witness it, or a priest/minister/justice of the peace to perform the act. Couldn't it be okay for two responsible people to enjoy THEIR OWN bodies, and each others, without having to go through some rigamarole that really has no more intrinsic meaning than a simple understanding between them?

I will anticipate your answer so you don't have to write it for me: NO.

[If Christians didn't have so much power in the States right now, they'd make me laugh.]

You really do take everything literally, don't you?

Yeah but they wake up after a while.

Well that doesn't seem very convenient now, does it.... hahaha. I wish we could actually make this happen sometimes. I am so tired of anti-choice rhetoric that I actually get in the face of those blown-up-fetus-picture-touting assholes who picket near my home. I've yet to see one person actually try to do anything than yell over my questions, too. So in the end, I wrote this hip-hop tune (yes, trained musicians can rhyme too) and I just go right into the middle of their circle and perform it on a portable speaker..... It gets a great but varying response, from pro-choicers and anti-choicers alike!

I think that it is so funny how people who are opposed to abortion are anti-choice. It's either support something we do not believe in or we are ignorant morons opposed to the right to choose. How about choosing to stop screwing around? Why is that choice never mentioned? Is it because Planned Parenthood wouldn't make all their money that way?

I wrote anti-choice, partly because that's what "pro-lifers" are, but mostly because I knew it would push a button with all you ho-dunk, backwoods, inbred, right-wing, pig fuckers. (I bet that bugs you too.)

Oh. Sorry all of you who came here for intelligent discussion. So did I. If you don't believe me, read my blog. I actually have a lot of good stuff to say about people, and I believe in the intrinsic good of humanity. I love a healthy discussion. But, you know what? Try as I might to engage the Christian right in intelligent discussion, they will have none of it. They are spouting the same bullcrap that I heard when I was in high school, then later, in University, then later, on the job. The arguements never change, the people just do. And there is no substance to the arguments. They fall back on rhetoric, they claim divine mystery, they say "The bible said so," but their reasoning isn't well thought out; often, it's not thought out at all. Depressing, frustrating, makes you wanna..... oh Jesus, if I keep going I'm gonna piss off them Bible thumpers again.

I bet if I said what I really feel, Bloggerparty would take notice! My mom taught me not to say those things.....

That's sooooo funny. Why, just today I wrote a blog expressly targetted at people with the marked inability to determine sarcasm in print:
http://bloggerparty.com/why_christians_should_be_for_abortion