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We Failed at Potty Training, Round One

We Failed at Potty Training, Round One

I decided yesterday that since my son and I were both under the weather and staying home for a few days, we may as well start potty training. After all, he's going to be three in September, and his two best friends were potty trained in two days a piece. Why not?

Because of my son's rather stubborn nature (and based on previous experimentation), I knew he wouldn't sit on the potty just because I asked. I produced a jelly bean machine and showed my son how he could put a penny in it and get jelly beans after sitting on the potty for two minutes. I set the timer so that he would know exactly what it took to earn the jelly beans.

He was super excited over the idea of getting those jelly beans. He wanted to sit on the potty right away, and over and over again, in order to get a few more. After two attempts in a row, I told him that we would come back in 30 minutes and try again. I fitted him with some terrific looking Thomas the Train underpants and we went off to play.

After a few trips to the potty, he came out of the bathroom and peed on the floor. "I peeing!" he shouted. I came with towels and disinfectant and wet wipes and clean underwear, and we talked calmly and pleasantly about trying to go in the potty. This was repeated several times throughout the day.

At naptime I put on his diaper, and had him wear it to his doctor's visit that afternoon. When he came home, the diaper came off, but he refused to sit on the potty. I waited an hour and tried again, and he resisted with finesse, even to the point of doing a wet noodle impersonation on the floor. My husband was about to insist, but I thought that was the wrong way to go. Instead we bathed him and put him in his diaper for the night. The rest of the evening was unpleasant - hopped up on his self-imposed lack-of-nap combined with a jelly bean sugar high, he careened around the house and pitched a fit at his early bedtime.

We awoke today to try again. Well, one of us did. Unfortunately, the one of us that needed to be on board with this project wasn't. I took off his diaper at 9 AM (Daddy didn't attempt potty training while I was still in bed) and I got him to sit on the potty then. After that, my son launched into full rejection of the potty training concept. He refused to sit on the potty. He didn't care about the jelly beans, other candy, or any kind of bribe I could offer him (I actually asked him what would make it worth his while to try to pee in the potty. He said "A new Murdoch," which is one of the Thomas trains. I actually told him I'd buy him one if he peed in the potty, but I guess he didn't believe me. I would have, though. I was that desparate).

My parents were over during this debacle. My mom was entertaining my son and my dad worked on a project in my house while I was writing (I'm a lucky woman, I know!). They too tried to encourage trips to the potty. Both my mom and my dad got the boy to sit on the toilet once, but of course he never peed. Meanwhile, between trips he was crossing his legs, and hopping back and forth trying not to pee. By lunchtime, I could hear him starting to cry in the bathroom. I came in with a late breaking idea to try to get him to pee on cereal floating in the toilet, but it was too little, too late. He then walked out of the bathroom, peed all over the floor, and started hysterically crying. My kid doesn't cry much. I felt awful.

We tried to help him understand that it was OK that he had the accident on the floor, but really, I think it was the whole event that was upsetting to him, not just that part. He is simply too stubborn to be tricked, begged, or rewarded into doing something that he does not want to do. But this stubborness collides with his desire for attention and his need to have our approval. That's a lot of conflict for a not-yet-three-year-old brain.

I put his diaper back on and we had a pleasant, loving, and wonderful afternoon. I personally felt so relieved, because as soon as he became resistant I felt like we were doing the wrong thing by continuing to push him. But I felt pushed too, a bit, by society, and by concerns that people would believe I gave up just because it was tough. I'm not a quitter. Plus, I'm a pretty dedicated mom. I know I'm a bit too lenient - I'm that way with dogs and people - but I'm very aware of behavior and very sympathetic to changing emotions and feelings when I'm trying to "train" a behavior. That's how you get a lot of dogs to do a lot of tricky things over a lot of years. I'm patient and persistent. I would have made 1000 trips to that potty in a day, and cleaned up 1001 accidents, if I thought that that was the right thing to do. But hearing my child sobbing over potty training - that did NOT feel right.

For now, I've bought some training pants, and in a few days we are going to practice taking his pants on and off by himself. I'm going to have my husband show him how he can pee on the cereal targets in the potty. We are getting some "It's great to pee in the potty" videos from the library. I'm going to buy a special little potty (we've been using a little seat on the regular toilet) and we are going to decorate it with stickers. And then I'm going to just let it sit there until he's ready to use it. Because I've learned that while you can lead a toddler to the potty, you can not make him pee.

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ModelMom's picture

awww Brenna!

poor little guy and poor mom! sorry it has gotten off to a rough start. from what i have heard, some kids just don't want to go in the potty but when they do decide to it takes just a few days. that is what happened with my best friend's son who is 6 now. when he was a little over 3 years old he just decided one day that he wanted to go in the potty like dad and that was the end of diapers...just like that! dont fret over it, and if your son is so upset that he starts crying then dont feel pressured to potty train him right away. you sound like a great mom and very in tune with your son. he'll be going in the pot in no time!

defintiely get an actual potty though. my son won't go near the toilet unless it is to empty out the potty dish and flush it. we have a potty downstairs and one upstairs. we leave them in plain view since kids tend to "forget" they have to go to the bathroom if they are really busy playing. the downstairs potty is a fisher price one that looks like a little throne and plays a royal tune when the motion sensor in it detects poop or pee falling into the bowl. and it comes with crown stickers and a little book. my son loves this potty....plus the pee guard actually works. our upstairs one was a cheap 10 dollar one from target which would be better for a girl....the pee guard is really short and not built to hold back a little boy's ability to spray! i also found a potty book at target that has a little button you push that makes a flushing sound. there is a boy versiona nd a girl version. it makes my son laugh......you might want to check that one out too!

good luck!

PS how is the big boy bed going? i am still curious since we are not too far away from the big move for our boy!

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Thanks!!

Thanks for sending the supportive thoughts. I've seen the royal potty, and perhaps I will buy one. My grandmother wants to buy a potty for him...

The big boy bed is going great! We had maybe four or five days of getting out, but the key turned out to be consistent putting him back in bed, then latching his door (we have a latch on it that hooks it open about 2 inches - it allows us the ability to hear him and satisfies his desire to have the door open but it keeps dogs and cat out) and telling him that we could not come back for 10 minutes. I kept my word and returned after 10 minutes if he was still out of bed and/or trying to get my attention. After we instituted the 10 minute rule, bedtimes became peaceful fast. I also told him at one point if he wanted to sleep on his floor that was his business. He laid down right in front of the door for a few minutes, and then I guess he decided that the terrazo was hard and he got back in bed and never did that again.

We do the same little routine each night - we read one long book or two shorter ones (or more likely the same one twice) and then my husband leaves and I tell my son one or two stories that I make up. They are always about him, and I've gotten one down that we tell every night. I also often incorporate behavior that I'd like him to do, so we often tell stories about how the boy in the story wakes up at night, looks out his window and it's still dark he goes back to sleep until the sun comes up. Amazingly enough his night time wakeups (he would call me in for just a moment at like 2AM) have pretty much disappeared, and I think the story telling has helped.

The biggest concern now with the bed is that it's high, and I put one of those bedrails on it in case he rolled over and would fall. However, now he throws his one million stuffed things he sleeps with out on the floor and threatens to/attempts to dive off of the bedrail into the pile. Methinks bedrail will be coming off soon.

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Haa. Trust me, this is not

Haa. Trust me, this is not a failure. Heck, this isn't even the end of round one. There will be many stops and starts, and probably a few accidents that come out of nowhere several months after you thought they had the hang of it. And I'm not laughing at the prediciment. I'm laughing because I've been there.

The thing that worked for us is to get several inexpensive toys and they get one everytime the first few days when they pee, and everytime the first few weeks when they poop. Gradually, taper the treats off. If it takes a Murdoch, then go buy one tommorow, and have it to show him. If you're holding it in your hand, he won't doubt that you will buy it for him. For my daughter, the motivator was yogurt covered raisins. At first she got them everytime. Then she started getting them once a day and for pooping. Then she only got them for pooping. We did not even make it through the package before she was potty trained. Each kid is different, and jellybeans may not be enough.

I would urge you not to give up just because he is crying. It's possible he's crying because he sees all these adults around him that go potty all the time, and he feels kinda upset that it is so easy for them and so hard for him. Keep with it and reassure him that everyone learns how to pee, and you will stick with it until he knows how. Push him- no. Encourage him- yes. Read books, make up stories, whatever it takes. The longer he can stay on the potty, the more likely he will produce something. Even if it's by accident, make a HUGE deal of it, and eventually it will click.

Good luck.

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The main thing...

The main thing that concerns me is his determined refusal to even get on the toilet. I can't buy him a Murdoch for every time he sits on the potty.

He could very well be afraid of failing on the potty, though. He doesn't like to try things that he's not good at. I mean, he'll do them once or twice but if he's not successful he says "I can't." So, the fact that he hasn't yet peed on the potty may make him feel unsuccessful so he's scrapping the whole thing. I assume that at some point he will desire to be rid of the diapers enough to want to try it himself. Plus I also have seen that if he chooses to do something himself, he will try and try. It's when he thinks we want him to succeed at it that he's afraid of failing.

I'm glad you mentioned that because I didn't put two and two together and realize that this is probably the core of his problem. He's a complicated kid!

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I absolutely understand

I absolutely understand about not being able to buy him a toy everytime he sits on the potty. I think with the combo of the small detached potty seat and having a train in hand for if he gets on the potty and does something may be enough to kick start it. If not, then definitely, don't push it. Just continue reminding him and he will pick it up when he's ready.

Also, I think most kids are probably the same way. They don't want to fail in something where mom and dad want them to succeed. My daughter is learning her ABC's now, and she gets so upset if she can't remember which is an A and which is a B. I just keep reminding her, and she is really proud of herself when she can find A's and B's all over the house. :D

But if you want to be like them, you'll have to emulate. -Ayria

I will need to find something he really wants

He gets a lot of gifts, unfortunately. He's a very grateful child, and he makes it very rewarding when you give him something, so people give him stuff a lot :) But I'll have to walk the fine line because I don't want to frustrate him if he really can't get it done and therefore can't get what he wants.

It was REALLY interesting to see that he CAN hold his urine today. I didn't know he had that skill.

Someone told me that their boy child pees outside!!! They have lots of dogs and goes out with the dogs! My husband would freak, and the boy would get some serious mosquito bites though.

Thanks for making me feel better about his failure issues. Interesting that your daughter freaks out about failure too. How old is she?

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My daughter is 4, but my son

My daughter is 4, but my son did it also. Heck, he still does it to a certain degree and he's 7. If he's had a bad day at school, he'll walk in with his shoulders hunched over.

But if you want to be like them, you'll have to emulate. -Ayria

My kids are also going to be three years apart!

That seems like a good age (I think).
Thanks!

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My sister and I had a three

My sister and I had a three year difference. It worked out well. If I had my way, and I could have gotten pregnant by just thinking about it, I probably would have had them either REALLY close together or REALLY far apart. I think when they are really close together in age it's just as easy to change one diaper as two. And when they are really far apart, you forget how hard it was the first time. lol But in actuality, I probably have the best of both of both worlds.

But if you want to be like them, you'll have to emulate. -Ayria

Heaven help me if I got pregnant just by thinking about it!

My plan is to never be pregnant again :)

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