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Was I Right To Be Bothered By This?

bad physicians | Cancer | grief and anger | hospice | kidney failure

I'm close to being within a month of the anniversary of my dad's passing. One would think that after almost six years I'd be handling this entire episode better than I do, but so be it.

There's one incident that I still feel is one of the worst I had to deal with, something that makes me angry every time I think of it, but I'm not sure if I'm right in being upset (it also upset my mother) or whether this is just how things are.

My dad was relegated to a bed set up in the living room the last five weeks of his life. He was incoherent most of the time, but when he did have those moments of clarity it always seemed like maybe he would have a chance to beat the cancer and kidney failure that was draining him.

It was during this time period when we had a conversation with the man who had been his doctor, and Mom's doctor, for a few years. I had met him about 2 months earlier for the first time, and I wasn't impressed; that's always a bad way to begin any kind of relationship.

Anyway, Dad's at home, and we hadn't heard from the doctor since that day in his office. I thought that was unprofessional, so I decided to call the doctor's office and, in my way, demanded to talk to him. When he came on the phone, I said that I thought his relative inattentiveness to my dad since he'd been home from the hospital reflected badly on his practice, and that he really needed to find the time to stop by and visit the family. I've worked with doctors for most of my adult life, and for once I was actually older than the doctor, and my dad was, well, who he was, so I felt it was warranted to make this request. He agreed to come later that week, as I'd called him on a Monday.

I happened to be visiting my dad the day he showed up, a Friday, as my parents lived out of town. I wanted to be there to see how this doctor would carry himself, though I'm not really sure why. He comes into the house and apologizes to my mother for not reaching out earlier; that was good. He then comes into the living room to talk to Dad, who was very coherent on that day, as we'd been enjoying what would be our last real conversation with each other.

The doctor starts talking to Dad, and in about two minutes he asks my dad this: "Have you thought about how you want to live out the rest of your life?" I was aghast and stunned; where the heck did that come from? My dad's demeanor immediately changed, and he didn't respond. From that point on, I never heard my dad utter another coherent word, just occasional sounds of pain. That hurt my feelings, and it hurt my mother's feelings, and when he left a few minutes later, I knew it was going to be the last time I talked to him because I wanted to beat him senseless.

Dad passed away two weeks later, and I keep thinking that the last time he was coherent and in a pretty good mood was destroyed by this man asking him that question. I've never lost the anger, but I keep wondering if I should have been expecting something else from this man. I mean, I could see him pulling my mother and myself away and asking us if we wanted him to go to a hospice, but to ask Dad,...

Just so you know, my mother and grandmother found new doctors within a couple of weeks, and I was the one who had to go to his office to pick up their medical records, because Mom refused to step inside the office again. But it does beg the question as to whether or not I should still be angry almost six years later, or if I really should have been angry back then. I can't figure out a way to let it go, and it's really good I don't live in the same town because I really don't know what I might have done later on.

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Sire's picture

Catfish, it would be best to

Catfish, it would be best to let it go. That doctor was an insensitive fool and unfortunately there are many like him. What is done is done and you have done all that you are physically able to do in that you have given him the flick. If your dad was around today, and in a sense he is because he will always be spiritually with you, what advice would he give you?

I am not really the best at giving advice but I hope you will be able to find something of use in this comment.
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Pancho Villa's picture

I feel your pain

Sorry for your loss. I too feel let down by the medical profession. My mom always said "I want to live until there is nothing left. I want the machines, tubes, drugs, I want to live". When her kidneys failed, my sister made a decision to "let her go". I remember mom asking where is the Dr. When is he coming? But there was no Dr. coming. My sister just gave her another shot of morphine. My sister said "she doesn't know what's going on." That was in 1998 and I still cannot forgive my sister. To this day, we do not speak to each other.

Some day both you and I will have to let it go. I cannot tell you when that day will come. I can tell you this. Forgiving and forgetting are two separate and distinct things. We may forgive but never forget.

xingtiao's picture

I feel for you Catfish

Hi Catfish,

I've been trying to think what would make him say a thing like that at a time when the end was so obviously near. I've read research about helping people to find a reason to stay in this world, a dream to follow, and that somehow increasing their life expectancy. Maybe that doctor had read that stuff and was grasping at it as a last straw to help his patient but it was completely inappropriate at that stage in your father's disease. I've been thinking that's the sort of stupid thing a person might say when they were not coping and emotion made them blurt out something weird. It is certainly weird in the circumstances.

You were listening and you knew it was a question with absolutely no point at all and it could have thrown a man of lesser intelligence into agonies of re-examination of the question 'Will he live?' Your brain would have done all that instantaneously and come up with the same answer and then jumped to anger at the question being asked and the affront of having to reprocess what was obviously happening to your father and your family. Anger born in such moments is hard to let go of. A lesser man would have vented it physically or by using law as a weapon. Your anger is a part of your grief which is also a measure of your love for your father Catfish.

What I've just said is only my own thinking Catfish. I hope nothing I have said has increased the hurt in any way. Maybe all you can do is put that man's words in a box labelled 'the stupidest things I've ever heard' in a sub-category 'very wrong'. They hurt all of you, your father, your mother, your grandmother (?) and you. Throw the box in a corner of your mind reserved for rubbish and move on, remembering the depth of the love between you and your father instead. It wasn't your fault that doctor came and said those words, if you have been thinking that you had anything to do with it you are not correct. It was his act, not yours.

Peace,

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Catfish's picture

Maybe one day,...

I'll learn how to let it go, but when it's this close, I always start having these thoughts about stuff I didn't do and should have done. After all, we only get one chance to take care of our family members when things get this critical. But I'll get beyond it once the date passes,... until next year. :-)

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I too had a whole hospital that "accidentally" over dosed my mother by giving her 9 times more chemo and two nights later she was dead. I went to the meeting with all the hospitals big wigs and BLEW my stack. The only way to "get over" this...and odds are you wont, but only because you are still hurt and always will miss him, the best way to at least get some measure of quiet is to write that doctor a letter or hell send him a copy of this blog...just let him know the impact he had on your dad and on you. Demand a real apology. If he is at all professional he will gladly apologize to you...it wont do much, but it will knock him down a peg and should hopefully take the main sting out.

spookyyank's picture

Well, Catfish

I think if the man was that blunt, you probably were right to be angry. I'd like to think that maybe his intentions were to treat your father with respect by asking him what he wanted, rather than leave it up to everyone else. But, those kinds of things can go either way ~ we really see this with your dad. He might have also had some hope and hearing that question from his doctor might have sapped that hope. We'll really never know.

As to what to do about your continued anger. I'd write a letter ~ a formal letter ~ to this doctor explaining how his words deeply hurt your family and how all thses years later the hurt is still strong. Who knows if it'll make a difference, but it might change the way that he sees his patients in the future. You may even be surprised that he carries regret over the issue. Ya never know. But, getting it all off your chest to the person who did it is really the only way you'll be able to let it go.

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ammorton's picture

I have to agree with Sassys and Spooky on this one Catfish

I think that you've never been able to express your feelings and those of your mother to this man, and that is partly why you have such a hard time getting past this.
I too would write a letter to him and just tell him about what he said and how it affected everyone.
Mabey if you do this, at least you will have let him know what he did and how wrong it was. You know, have your say in the matter.
I hope he isn't still practicing this insensitive bedside manor, if he is, when he gets your letter it may just make him re-think what he says and how it sounds when he says it.
I cant say that it will make you feel better, but for me, I would have at least some satisfaction. I hope you can get past it somehow.

huttriver10's picture

Horrible memories...

but your Dad has gone.Useless and insensitive doctor too. But get on with your life. I subscribe to that adage,"What goes around, comes around!"

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Catfish's picture

I have to admit,...

I like the letter idea, but the problem now is that I don't remember the guy's name. I only met him the two times, and at this juncture I certainly can't ask my mother what his name was, because she doesn't know I'm still mad about it, and I'd hate to bring up a bad memory (also, she'd ask me why I wanted to know before answering, and, like many mothers, she could be a bulldog about it without telling me anything).

Now that's an interesting topic, isn't it, that being dealing with unresolved feelings, or why we need to deal with them much sooner than later. Man, I couldn't even find the guy, since I'm not from the town my parents were living in, so even if I wanted to kick his behind, I have no knowledge of either his name or where he is; sigh,...

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xingtiao's picture

I agree

Yeah Catfish,

Write the letter even if you never post it. I hope it helps you put this behind you by putting your feelings out there. You've begun to do that by posting your feelings here and the letter will help you take it further.

Xingtiao.

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