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Voting Obama, But Not With Enthusiasm

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Barack Obama is going to the the democratic nominee for president, holding off Hillary Clinton, who I was pulling for, and making it to the top of the Democratic party, and will now be running against John McCain.

So, why am I not jumping up and down in joy because he's the nominee, the first black man to ever have a legitimate shot at the presidency? I mean, I've waited my entire life for something like this, something I never thought would ever happen in my lifetime, and now it's right on the cusp of possibility.

Many people see him as a dynamic speaker; I'm not feeling it. Many people say he's going to be the agent for change; frankly, some of his ideas don't seem plausible, and the way he's saying some other things has me kind of scared. I do agree with some other things he's said, and there's little I've heard from McCain that I agree with (okay, nothing), so who I'm voting for isn't close to being an issue.

I'm just not enthused. And I'm not happy, and I'm not sure why. I'm not even a Democrat, so I can go whichever way I want to, but I know I'm voting for him, so it's a moot issue. Don't even think Nader; still mad at him for giving us Bush. I'm just underwhelmed right now. Nope, not happy one bit.

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Well I am very happy that Obama is in Catfish!

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He may not make all the promises he claims come true, but the one thing I do believe is it wont be for lack of at least trying...and McCain is not only full of doodoo he is down right mean...and he lies. He wants us all to believe that he is anti lobbyist's etc. when in reality a huge, if not all,of his campaign money comes from lobbyists and special interest groups. I don't trust McCain at all. I do trust Obama, and that for me is the best reason to vote someone in...do you trust them? If yes then go with your gut, if no then ...go with your gut. The fact that Obama ran a relatively clean campaign (Compared with Hillary and McCain)speaks volumes to his character and his dignity...both his dignity and his calm demeanor is exactly what this country needs to repair our credibility and our ability to bargain and function outside the USA. And when it comes to our own issues in this country, I do believe that Obama will make a marked difference in how he approaches the economy, health insurance, Nafta, etc. I see him as genuinely caring about the citizens of this once great country, so get excited, because the alternative is truly untenable. Even the Europeans are excited about Obama...and that is a reason to celebrate for once, in a very, very long time:D

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As I said, Sassys,...

I'm missing it, and I'm not sure why. I'm not alone; my wife is trying to figure it all out also. Part of this is a good thing, actually; it means I'm not supporting him JUST because he's the black candidate, which I can easily say wouldn't have been the issue many years ago.

Maybe a part of this is that I've never really cared for the primaries before, other than Jesse Jackson in 1988, and back then we all knew he really wasn't going to make any kind of impact. And, I've never really cared who was running for president, since I always knew who I was going to vote against; that was easy also.

So, this time around I actually had a vested interest in someone in the primaries, and I had pretty much figured that by the time the season was over, my candidate was going to be there and then I could start getting enthusiastic about a presidential run for the first time in my life. Instead, my candidate is done, but so late into the process that I still haven't quite gotten over the fact, even a week later. Who I'm voting for to put in as president hasn't changed, but neither has my enthusiasm.

Maybe I can't get juiced because I really don't know that he's done anything as a senator other than vote against the war, and to me that's not such a big deal because, I admit, I'd have voted for going to war in Iraq in a heartbeat (still mad we didn't take Saddam out in 1991), but I'd have questioned the exit strategy, which it seems no one else at the time had thought about. Other than the war, what else has he done as a senator that's president-worthy? Yeah, I live in NY state, so I know what Hillary has done, and maybe it's not a fair question.

Maybe I wasn't crazy for Oprah going against a principle she's always held and saying she was supporting him for president. The Oprah factor was going to be big, even if her show has taken a hit (though I'm not sure it was supporting Obama that's done that, since most TV shows have taken a hit, and she's still number one). Maybe I didn't want to jump on the bandwagon that I felt a lot of other people were going to be on because she supported someone; heck, I've never picked up a single book she's recommended, and I like Oprah.

I don't know. However, as I said, I'll be voting for him over McCain, someone I still give a ton of respect to as a POW for as many years as he was, being the son of a veteran of two wars, because I really do believe McCain is out of touch with what the country needs. However, one thing McCain does have is a track record, so I even know way more about him that Obama.

And there's just something about that which bothers me even now.

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Actually Catfish there is a ton of info out there

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about Obama....he didn't raise the amount of money just because he's "new and black" he raised a ton of money, which he has managed very well I might add, because he is smart as hell. Now that alone should be enough to get a little respect, no? McCain as a POW has earned the right to be pissed, but not the right to be vengeful and the thought of an angry POW in the White House right now should be enough of a reason for all of us to fear what he would feel justified in doing.

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There's information, Sassys,...

like on this page here, but I meant as a senator, as in sponsoring any bills and the like. Freshmen senators don't usually get a lot of chances to make big time senate impressions, but Clinton with in her first couple of years, probably because she was already a known quantity. This isn't beating up on him, by the way, because the same could be said of Jimmy Carter when he was the presidential nominee in 1976.

In this day and age of litmus testing before going on the record with a choice, it seems that not having an overly extensive record is becoming the best bet. We can look at some of these guys who have been up for Supreme Court and federal court appointments and notice that Bush finally learned to stop pushing these guys with long conservative track records on Congress because he couldn't get any of them through. I almost hate that the judicial process has become so politicized, but in reality, we only really hate it when its those people who are for what we're for that are having the difficulty.

An angry McCain; I don't know why, but that's funny!

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Well the time to vote...

is nigh!!

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Count me in

On writingup, I posted a blog in late summer of 2006. The title of the blog was; :Can Barak Obama Win the Whitehouse in 2008? I wish I still had that blog because it contained what I thought he stood for way back then. It has been quite a jouney as I have watched this young man pull to the front with everything against him. But back then he was against the war and was against going to war unless our soldiers have everything they need to keep them safe.

I remember a young senator from Massechusettes who became president and with these words won over an entire nation: "Let us never negoiate out of fear, but let us never fear to negotiate". John Kennedy saw the wisdom in sitting down with our enemies to bridge the gaps which might lead to an unnecessary war and yet when it was necessary, he stood up to them over sending missles to Cuba.

No president, no person is perfect. We can all find flaws in someone else and pick them apart until they won't even recognize themself.

Barak Obama has spent his life working on behalf of the poor and underprivileged. He grew up in an America which was nothing more than a caste system which delegated any one of color to the back door. He was lucky to have lived in Hawaii which was more tolerant than say...the south. He has also experienced living in an Islamic country. Islam is a part of this world and we have to all live together. Not every Muslim is a terrorist as some people would have us to believe. There are Christians who are just as violent and just as radical as terroristic Muslims. The sad thing is, these people give every one a bad name in the name of religion.

If ever, East and West are going to meet and solve their differences (so the rest of us can live in a world bent on peace), then someone will have to sit down and negotiate peace. Blessed are the peacemakers for they wil be called the Sons of God.

Why are people so afraid of negotiations which might do some good? If they don't turn out, then what have we lost by trying?

McCain and Bush act like the neighborhood bullies and who really likes a bully? WHat does this teach our children? Are we teaching them to reach out and try to bidge the gaps or are we telling them to go "beat-up" every one who doesn't agree with them? Yeah, every one is afraid of a bully, but do we all want to live under one?

Fight the battles that are necessary, but first try to reach a settlement through the peace process. I guarantee the mothers in this world will appreciate the effort.

I didn't mean to write a blog.....I just wanted to say why I think Obama will make a great president.

Amen Mz. Zola!

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I can't see why Catfish isn't excited about this...it's cool as hell and it is finally exciting to be a part of the voting process...instead of the same ole same ole. Barack Obama has at the very least made this country sit up and pay attention. The idea of another Republican in the big casa is abhorrent to me. We are 1) Broke 2) Killing people 3) Being taken to the cleaners by the people that we are at war with...ugh. I could go on, but ya get my drift.

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I'll say this, Mz Zola,...

The one thing I've disagreed with both Hillary Clinton and John McCain on is this point about not talking to certain individuals of other countries. I think back to the days of the fear of communism and realize that if Nixon hadn't gone to China, we'd still be scared of something we knew nothing about. Same, oddly enough, with Reagan and the USSR. Under Bush we've had conversations with North Korea and, once again oddly enough, Libya.

So, Obama's saying he wants to open a dialogue with countries whom we haven't had a dialogue with makes perfect sense. True, some nationals from those countries who are now in the U.S. don't think it's a good idea, but just how long are we supposed to ostracize these countries without a legitimate reason of the "threat" against the U.S. as opposed to many larger and more dangerous countries anyway? I say one has to at least start the dialogue; they may be more ready than anyone may believe.

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I am Obama all the way...

I would have settled for Hillary if need be, I figure so long as McCain doesn't get in there, we might stand a chance to at least try to get some things back to a, how do I say this, NORMAL, state, if thats even possible at this point.
If McCain gets in there, we just well be having Bush for 4 more years.
I like Obama, his ideas, his young mindset, I think it just may be what this country needs. Wouldn't be bad if Hillary stuck around with him either.
No he doesn't have as much experience, but in the past we have put people with experience in White House, and what have they done or accomplished?
I am just ready for somebody different and he is the person I want in there.

Ya know, I don't think it's

Ya know, I don't think it's necessary that you be jazzed about him. You aren't feeling him. So what. I think the fact that you're voting, AND that you're voting Democrat because you agree with them over the Republicans is enough to make me happy.

And forget that nonsense about how you should vote for him because he's the black candidate. Just as I said Hillary's sex was not a deciding factor, I hope that Obama's race is not a factor. While it's an exciting time as far as choices go, I hope that my children will think this whole election cycle is silly for discussing it in the first place. I know we're not there yet, but soon I hope.

Back to the topic at hand though, I don't believe that most people wanted Kerry or Bush. They just knew that they DIDN'T want the other one. I'm not sure that anyone was all that hot for Bush/Gore. Or Clinton/Dole... I think the norm is that people are not jazzed about their choices. But they know that they alternative is far worse.

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You're right, IG,...

the alternative is worse, but it's also a strange thing for someone my age to realize that either times have changed or I've changed, such that my need for having a viable black candidate that I could get behind wasn't essential.

Maybe one day I'll feel the same way when watching the news, hoping the person who committed the crime wasn't black. Nah!

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