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The Only Crime WORSE than MURDER: SPORTS BETTING

realitycheck's picture

Legalize Sports Betting?

The government had debated legalizing prostitution and marijuana for years but they are completely and totally against sports betting, unless you live in Las Vegas, Delaware, Montana or Oregon!
I found it very interesting – did you know that in 1992 Congress banned states from legalizing sports gambling, while allowing it to continue where already legal. BUT the SAME YEAR some states were doing “experimental tests

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o ceallaigh's picture

not just sports betting

The personal and social costs of gambling abuse of all forms are staggering, just like those associated with a chemical addiction. Go here for more. Lots of governments claim that casinos will rake in big bucks for their constituents. This is true for First Peoples Nations, and Las Vegas, where the tellers rake in the cash and the governments export the consequences. For a place like Maine, it's soon realized that the costs of dealing with gambling addiction (I originally wrote "gambling addition", an interesting Freudian slip, and an oxymoron - gamblers by definition can't add), gambling-related crime, and similarly related social problems soak up all the casino profits, and then some.

For the major leagues, it's all about money, as usual. Horse racing in New England, while I was growing up, was universally regarded as "fixed". Tracks died in droves. Those that remain today are mostly slot-machine parlors - horse racing can't make it on its own. The Black Sox scandal threatened to kill (white) Major League Baseball. What? The only pro ball in America is the Negro Leagues! The hard response of baseball to gambling in its midst is baseball's attempt to ensure it doesn't share the fate of horse racing.

Gambling by anybody else (i.e. fans) is diffo. That brings in cash, and exports the problems. American football is such a dumb game, it only survives today because it has captured the sports betting market. The headline is not whether the 49ers won but whether they beat the spread.

I don't like what that says about us.

SECT's picture

your football comments are wrong, i must say so

wow, you couldn't be more wrong...not your comments about gambling and addiction but your take of football. have you ever been to an American futball game...Futbal Americano is the highest grossing league in the world not because of gambling but because ofa rabid, loyal fanbase. When the Giants lost 23-0 in the playoffs and I saw two 50 year old men crying in the parking lot, it wasn't because they just lost money.
I agree the nature of the sport attracts alot more gambling action than any other sport, and that doesn't hurt its revenue...i mean you can't really handicap a sport like soccer where games end 1-0, or 2-1 all the time...how would you bet on that? Football revolutionized gambling not the other way around, there was gambling before football- there just weren't any point spreads
Jimmy the Greek Snyder created the points spread in sprots and it definately added to the rise of football's popularity- it's also helped basketball as well.

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o ceallaigh's picture

re: football comments

you couldn't be more wrong

First time ever if it is, Rocky. Smile :)

have you ever been to an American futball game

I used to play in the marching bands, man.

Then I went to the Southern Hemisphere and came to understand football (OK, for you I'll call it "soccer"), rugby union, rugby league, and Australian Rules football. And that those that say that "gridiron" (American rules football) is a four-hour match with twelve minutes of action (unless you're counting the endless commercials) are right.

a rabid, loyal fanbase

Point taken. But they ain't nothin' compared to footb... er, soccer, or Aussie Rules, fans.

Jimmy the Greek Snyder

Ah yes, I remember Jimmy the Greek. Whatever happened to him ... ?

SECT's picture

i fucked this chick in the marching band once, she gave me crabs

soccer...er...football will never be big in this country. It is a sport for the outcasts of our society. It's easy for parents to let their children play soccer, they can just blend in. Run up and down the field and everybody cheers, if they touch the ball...even better. Parents like to spare their kids (if they are not athletic) the embarrasment of striking out in a baseball game or getting knocked down in a football game...i wasn't talking about the world either when i made my point..i agree that in europe or australia, the fans are much more rabid when it comes to football or aussie rules football or soccer or tea parties whatever...but not here and that will never change...and as for Jimmy the Greek, yes we know what happened to him, he was a stupid racist and he got what he deserved, but he still created modern gambling, that was my only point....
12 minutes of action? you are greatly mistaken, its at least 14. 14 minutes of action that are far superior than the 2+ hours of root canal fun which is a futball match...
oh yeah, who's rocky?
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I guess you weren't the first one, eh?

a sport for the outcasts

Given the popularity of soccer worldwide, and the emptiness of the stadia during NFL Europe matches, I wonder who's the outcast? Guess I'm out with the rest of them. Beats shooting 'roids ...

I once saw a 15-year-old with a severe case of Dunlap's Disease ("my belly dun lapped over my belt") playing pickup hoops in a YMCA gym. Bulking himself up for the offensive line of the high school football team. In a small town of mid-coast Maine. One step above 8-man. Chances of making the NFL: zero. Chances of an early death from obesity: astronomical. What's wrong with this picture?

who's rocky?

Rocket J. Squirrel. Introducer of Bullwinkle J. Moose, a.k.a. Mr. Know-it-All. Just in case somebody thought I was serious. Smile

James Champion's picture

Gambling and why football is the greatest game

I thought it was interesting that when I went to write my daily betting blog, this blog was the first one I saw. But anyways, I am not here to defend gambling, but rather my right to if I so choose and I do it legally. I have to take issue with the comparison of a gambling addict to a crack head. I have spent a lot of time in casinos and I never met someone who I could proclaim as a bonified gambling addict so I may be off base with my assertion. But I have seen and dealt with people that were and are addicted to drugs like crack or cocaine and I must say the effects do not seem to be similar, but I will do research so I am not speaking from a voice of ignorance. Also I have to take issue with the statement that football only survives because of gambling. That is a cynic's point of view. Football is the greatest game. It is only a 16 game season so every game matters. Each team plays one game a week so the anticipation is crazy. A matchup of two good teams in Week 7 is hyped more than a basketball playoff game. It is the most cerebral of all the games. It takes a week to prep for your next opponent and to recooperate your body, which takes me to my next point. We love the physical nature of the game. I played football and I used to love to bleed on the field. It inspired me to play harder, to see what I had in me. I may be deviating from where this discussion started, but as a football purist I feel I have to defend it against someone who says it exists because of gambling.

realitycheck's picture

I like to bet...

I have to admit, I like to bet on the football games. I play a five dollar a week pool with coworkers. I think it makes the game even more exciting. Believe me, I'd still watch it even if money wasn't involved. Is that wrong? Should I be jailed if I was caught? I do agree with Sir E. about the emotions behind the game not being about money, but there are people (especially at my husbands plant) who do cry when they didn't win becuase they lost that months rent becuase they had "bad numbers".
BUT I do also agree with what O'C said about the game making headlines because of the spread. I don't think that's the ONLY reason that football lives, but I do get where you are coming from, I hear about the damn spread 24/7 at the bar. In fact we have to have the "spread sheets" posted in the bathrooms and on the bar so customers can "copy" them. That's a little over board, don't you say?

o ceallaigh's picture

re: betting

I don't know where I heard this (it might have been from a casino expert, or a place like Gambler's Anonymous, or even from a broker speaking of stocks), but it's stuck with me.

"Don't bet what you can't afford to lose".

Since I grew up with the obsession that if I lost so much as a dime, I wasn't going to college (a not unreasonable fear given my circumstances - I was, after all, the first in my family to go), I didn't bet. And, I suppose, acquired my abhorrence of gambling in any form.

The worst thing that can happen with the $5 pool is that you get sucked into the $50 pool. Then the $500 etc. etc. If you have the discipline to follow the "don't bet" rule, then who can object? Bet and have fun. But if you don't ... And how do you find out? I learned that, for people predisposed to alcoholism, the "drink too many" is the first one. Could apply to any addiction or obsessive behavior linked to an object.

Hence, I think, the explanation for the social pressures against gambling that makes the most sense is that it protects the naive person from getting into an addictive situation when the only guidance (s)he will receive is from those who benefit from the addiction. The alternative to banning the addiction is to monitor the naive one closely, and intervene quickly if (s)he shows signs of getting sucked in. This alternative is hard work, and not cheap. So ...

realitycheck's picture

James Champion, I thought you'd like this one!

Yup, I thought you'd get a kick out of this topic!

James Champion's picture

Yea, Reality, u know I was

Yea, Reality, u know I was all over this one. I noticed you have won awards for your artwork. Have you ever designed a tattoo for someone? I have been looking for someone to design a tattoo for me for a while. Is there anywhere on the web where I could look at your work?

realitycheck's picture

Many Tattoos

My specialty is Darkside airbrush/tattooing!

James Champion's picture

That is very cool. If you

That is very cool. If you have the time I would be cool if you could design one for me.

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