Sometimes I Hate People

Submitted by Catfish on March 22, 2008 - 8:55pm. criminal behavior | cruelty to disabled persons | murder | physical abuse

That's a tough statement to make, but after reading this news story about five people who basically tortured a pregnant, mentally disabled woman to death over a three month period and basically showed no remorse for her death, I just feel sick about what's going on in the world.

I thought it was bad enough when that poor woman was raped and beaten for being black in South Carolina back in September, but this has to be inherently worse because the woman who did the abuse did it along with two of her own kids, one being 15 and another being 12, another woman, and another kid, 18, who wasn't even a member of the family. If you read the news story, you're just going to be abhorred.

Pimp slapped every hour of every day for the rest of their lives; some people just need to feel what it's like to do things to others. The twelve year old,... if that kid doesn't turn out to be a delinquent I'll be shocked.

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Oh, I can think of some torture

Submitted by spookyyank on March 23, 2008 - 12:39am.

And, that's what they should get! Torture! It never fails to shock me how cruel people can be. And, given that the poor woman was mentally disabled, she probably believed that she disserved it for being "bad". This really breake my heart. I really do hope that they receive so much worse from their fellow inmates! Sorry, but even bitch-slaps every hour isn't good enough. They all need some good old fashion prison rapes, ass-beatings, starved, bones broken, taunted & humiliated ~ all for a prolinged period of time before getting shanked!

I can only hope that the kid will get counseling and come to understand what he did. The teenager may be too far gone at this point!

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Our society is sick

Submitted by American Rhetor... on March 23, 2008 - 5:12am.

When you hand a kid a TV remote and hope they will be quiet for the nest 4 hours until it's time to go to bed guess what happens!

These kids play hours of shoot-em-up Kill-em-dead video games that de-sensitizes them so that killing and torture becomes non-consequential to them. They would just as soon pull the trigger as change the channel.

Our pursuit of a technical baby sitter has given us a crop of blood hungry thugs who can kill easier than they can move from the sofa to the refrigerator.

The sad thing is it isn't the kid's fault. Wake up parents before you too are a victim of the game. You bore these little lovelies, they are your responsibility. It’s not up to society to raise them for you. Nor can you buy them devices to raise them for you. You either spend the time while they are young or you spend the time later visiting them behind bars if you yourself are lucky enough to survive their terror.

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Yep--it really sucks to hear that this crap

Submitted by ammorton on March 23, 2008 - 8:15am.

actually happens, and the fact that it happens on a daily basis now.

Surprised---not at all. Shocked...absolutely. It will get worse before it gets better, unless parents wake up and raise the kids right. Then there are those that should just never be able to have kids because they do stupid, horrendous stuff like in this story.

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Yes, but let's not forget

Submitted by spookyyank on March 23, 2008 - 10:10am.

that the main people involved were adults. And, the ring-leader is a meth addict. They were the ones who made it ok for the kids to do wrong, but were the main abusers.

Ya know AR - not to sound like "don't hate the player, hate the game", but I'm not a big supporter of the theory that kids growing up to be thugs because they play violent video games. The kids who *do* grow up to commit violent crimes are generally abused and neglected. The environment they grow up in has a great deal to do with it also. You take this story for instance. The kids have been raised in an environment where it's ok to steal, it's ok to lie, it's ok to hurt others in order to help yourself. (something tells me that this isn't the first time the mother's abused someone!) If they play violent video games, it will surely *feed into* what's already being taught, but on it's own, wouldn't do that kind of damage. Just a moment ago, I put on the movie 'Hot Fuzz' for Nella. Not only had I sat down to write this comment, but will be checking my email in a moment, doing a little bit of sufing, and then fussing with a printer I just got. So, I figure, why not give her a movie to watch while I'm preoccupied with all that? Of course, later we'll go out and play and maybe she can mend things with her boyfriend later (she took his car last night and that hurt his feelings! LOL) And, throghout our day we'll chat and cuddle and all that.
So, it's really about balance. THAT'S were parents are falling short and not just with video games. And, the real danger created by the uninvolved parent isn't crime, but teenage pregnancy and std's - which are rampant among teenagers.
Yeesh, didn't mean for that to sound like a lecture! LOL

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Sickos all of them!

Submitted by Sassys on March 24, 2008 - 9:45am.

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They should all get life for two murders...a baby was murdered too! This kind of crap is beyond disgusting to me. How the hell can that 12 year old ever be "normal" again? The guilt will eventually creep in and if it doesn't then he is a psychopath, plain and simple. I wonder if he was ever normal anyways? I am sick of the age old "Drugs made me do it" it's a losing argument, because so many people do drugs and not all of them torture and kill people, so I have no pity here, not even for the "children" involved! Accountability should be a given, and yet these people had no conscience, and without that they don't understand what accountability is. And I am talking about the kids here, not the adults... As far as the adults go,I am very anti the death penalty, but in a case like this one, I would gladly pull the lever myself!

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had a conversation about this yesterday

Submitted by spookyyank on March 24, 2008 - 10:50am.

And, though the kids DO need to be held accountable, I still need to hold out hope that with the proper environment and counseling, they'll someday become good people. I certainly won't go as far as to say that it's not their fault, but when you are raised to believe that things like what happened are acceptible, that needs to be taken into account. Otherwise, they'll be doomed to never learning and grow up to be even worse than they are now.

And, that leads me to the "chat" I had with my brother's girlfriend about it. She has case files she'd had to read while in college. One of them was the case of a young girl who's family kept her prisoner in a room. She was never spoken to and therefore never developed language skills. The only time anyone entered her room, it was her father and he was there to rape her. When she became pregnant, they sealed up the door and never went back in. Apparently, there was a cut out at the bottom of the door to slide food under. So, when the parents died they found her and her young son. They communicated with grunts and hand gestures and wore next to nothing.

Will they ever be "normal"? Who knows. Probably not in the way that we thinnk of it. But, my point is that the way kids are raised has such a HUGE impact on how they'll turn out. The two situations have little in common in that the boy who helped torture the woman to death must have had out-side exposure to other people. So, somewhere in his mind there must have been a sense that what they were doing was wrong. But, as the story implies, he was also abused by the mother. Kids in situations like that will do ANYTHING to gain the good favor of the abuser. And, I'm sure he looked for any way to keep the rage off of him. His lack of remorse would also be a learned behaviour.

Now, the adults....we had a nice, yet brief chat (my brother interrupted) about how things like this really make us wish we could become vigilanties! Who knows if I could accually go through with it, but I do so hope that they'll receive so much worse in prison!

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For some reason,...

Submitted by Catfish on March 24, 2008 - 1:08pm.

though I'd like to be able to turn off the emotions things like this bring, I'm also glad that I can't because I tend to believe that once we stop feeling that these things are abhorrent there goes life as we know it. The drug angle is something else, but the cast of characters still makes no sense to me. And the landlord,... it seems he knew something was going on, and he did nothing to help, so why isn't he in trouble also?

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