Sex Offender Returns Home To Live With Victim

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sex offenders | Victim rights

I work with a variety of clients, including sex offenders. Recently I have encountered a case where the 13 y/o perpetrator is being considered for returning home to where his 6y/o victim/sister resides.

He was watching porn, got an erection, and decided to experiment by putting said erection in sisters mouth. She allegedly did not resist. She did tell her mother about it later. And the slippery slope worked its' magic.

He was arrested and is now being 'treated'. The identified goal is family reunification.

SHOULD THIS GUY BE ALLOWED TO RETURN HOME TO WHERE HIS SISTER/VICTIM LIVES?

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MizzQueen's picture

NO

Why put the sister in danger of the same thing happening again?
-iF nOt Me thEn wHo?

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Is The Assumption That He Will Reoffend?

If we believe he will reoffend, then certainly we would not want to put his sister at risk. Yet, in the spirit of family reunification, and the assumption (based on treatment, his legal status, and some other things) that he will not do that again, why not go home?

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You can't be serious.

The only way I would even dream of him ever living in the same house with that little girl again would be if he wore a non-removable ankle bracelet that screamed a warning if he got within 10 feet of her. The case doesn't surprise me, though. I'm sure, with all the sexually explicit programs being shown during the "family" hours on TV, we will be hearing more and more of this kind of thing. Where were the parents, I would like to know. Where did this boy get his hands on porn in the first place? And why were they alone long enough for this to happen?

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Electronic Restraint...

Perhaps that will be one of the contingencies in this case. It's all rather surprising that there even is a question.

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You can actually be asking this question...

Should a sex offender be allowed to return to live with his victim? Hmmmmm...I don't think this is even a debate. Oral sex is considered "sex", which could be considerd "rape". I don't think it's make for a healthy living situation.

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A Real Case On My Desk...

A 13 y/o perp and a 6y/o victim/sister. The social service system from their county want to reunite the family. I initially said that can't possibly be--victim and perp living in same house?!?! But indeed, that is the 'hope'.

It is in the name of family reunification. As far as I can see, nobody has consulted the victims' therapist, so I have recommended bringing that person on board.

We shall see.

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disgusting

i cant believe that it is even an option for the family to be re-unified. the 13 year old should be sent off to be treated until adulthood.....or the 6 year old placed with other family members. ultimately, it is going to never be a heealthy life for either of the kids, but i cant imagine how awful it would be for the little girl to be in the same living space with the person who raped her.

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Never the Same...

Pretty much what I intend to voice, Modelmom. In fact, already have. And, surprised that reunificiation is even an option. I will be exploring all that more, though the momentum seems set.

Wierd?

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Other Thoughts

So the reason that reunifying the family is probably being considered an option, is because the children are very young. Six is not old enough to have a perfectly clear understanding of what was going on-- but 13 is.
I'd say it was rape. The damage is done. The unthinkable has happened.
Let me just say this-- I understand the goal of reunification. And with what I have seen of families with sexual abuse, sometimes the relationships can be repaired. It would depend on the family. As a caseworker, one can only know the family so well.
But healing for the individual probably isn't something that the state can manufacture. The state doesn't have miracles. The state has laws. I think that one could look into what laws have been broken, and what the penalties are. Clemency seems like a questionable idea, since the boy was clearly old enough to understand what he was doing.
I guess, from my experience and vicarious experience, it's not that I think that all is lost for the family and even for the perpetrator, but I do think that the state has a responsibility to uphold the laws that it has passed.

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Victim, Victim, Victim...

Agreed Moggett. No law, consequence on the perp, or anything else is going to change what happened to the 6 y/o. And it is quite likely that family reunification is a fantasy that suits the mother and the perps hopes and desires.

The vicitm must have a voice in this case.

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Go Medievel On Him, Perchance?

I know that there is no way in hell-o-ise that this would happen but if I were calling the play Mr. Oral Sodomy would have his little "Mister" layed out, all nice and straightened out on a section of tempered steel and then a duly-appointed "punisher" would go to work flattening the little "Mister" with a 2lb sledge- How much offending could this teen monster accomplish with a peepee that looks like a ribbon of beef jerky...ahhhh, to dream a little dream!

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Kizzy-Based 'Penal' System...

Well Kizzy, I suppose that your approach would have a very effective preventive impact. Flat boy would no longer be able to use his package for abusing. There are other ways though, and perhaps the only real way to prevent him any further wrong doing is to throw him in a vat of hot, steaming, smelly and fetid fluid of the collective voiding nature.

That may also have an impact, yes?

I love it when you talk that way, by the way.

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I like your idea too deorre

nothing wrong with any hot,steaming,smelly and fetid fluid filled vat for the likes of this kiddo...I always been one for the "if you do the crime, you do the time" bus-ride,if you will...what is the tragedy of course is that the little girl has been robbed of something she never had a chance to grab hold of and dance with, and I'm talking of just being allowed to be a little girl. I'll say a prayer for her and him, they'll just be different prayers.
BTW-I got all manners of talking this way and that!;)

Hugs and Kizzes,
Kiz

Interesting...

I'm kind of interested (and impressed) with the fact that this situation led to the boy's arrest. Who told the authorities?

I'm sort of divided on this. I can somewhat understand how the boy may have not associated this situation with rape because in our society, oral sex is often not considered sex (especially by the young). Plus his sister did not resist (which of course doesn't mean it wasn't rape - but because she agreed at his age he may not have seen it this way). I can see how this could have been the case of very misguided curiousity (or, perhaps not).

I guess I would think that extensive counseling should occur for both children and the parents before anyone could really make a determination about what is safe in this situation. I hate to think that the poor six-year-old could be removed from her family and sent to live elsewhere. That could be viewed as a punishment to her, and how unfair is that?

What a mess...

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She Reported Him, Brenna...

First to her mother, who did nothing. Then to the school authority. They reported it to the po po.

She won't be punished by being removed from the home, unless it is determined that the mother cannot provide a safe home for her.

The boy seems pretty clueless, though that could be a cover. I don't think so , though. He needs fome serious counseling and educating.

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Aw, see...

I had thought that after the girl reported it to the mom, the mom took care of it in some way, by speaking to a doctor or getting counseling for them or something. Too bad the girl had to find someone else to get her help.

Thanks for not jumping on me - I thought my opinion my be upsetting considering how different it is from the rest of them :)

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Thanks For Not Assuming...

and falling into the stereotype trap that many fall into relative to this type of dicey discussion. When I started working with these types of criminals, I learned that some are real bad characters, and some are actually quite human and in need of some serious help. Many, by the way, are victims of the very crime they later perpetrated.

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I try to look at all sides

Plus I have a lot of experience teaching middle school aged kids, so I could kind of see how this could happen.

You must have a tough job.

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People, Even Sex Offenders, Are Fascinating...

That's what keeps me going. I am always amazed at the lengths that humans will go, whether benevolent or dispicable.

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Sex Offender Update...

Remarkably, nobody...even the victims' social worker, were working together. Thusly, the potential for inadvertant exposure of the victim to the perp. way likely.

Thankfully, once I pointed all this out, players had an 'aha' moment. Now, there will be much more scrutiny.

I wonder how often this stuff goes on.

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