Is it appropriate for an 18 year old to date a 13 year old?

Submitted by realitycheck on January 25, 2006 - 7:55am.

“I have been dating Mark for two years now," says Sarah, a 11 year old from MA. “He is my best friend and I love him. We are going to get married when I turn 18." Sarah adds, “I just wish my parents would let me see him. They can’t stop me. I see him when they are asleep, but I wish they would give him a chance."
Sarah’s parents seem to have a different story to tell. Joanie Horton, Sarah’s mother says, “Mark is not only a bad boyfriend, but he is a bad person. My 11 year old daughter has been sucked into a world that I don’t want her in. She’s too young! She can’t even drive a car yet and Mark is telling her that they are going to have a family! Absolutely not! I will call the police again and again until they do something about it. He’s not welcome here."

So what went so wrong?
A while ago, a 11 year old Sarah Horton and her friends Beth and Gina had went to the gas station across from Sarah’s residence to pick up some soda. As the girls paced the isles a boy approached Sarah and asked what her name was. She tells him and they begin to have a conversation. The two of them begin to talk. The boy tells Sarah he is 16 years old. They exchange phone numbers and promise to talk later that night.

The following day Sarah tells her mother that she met a boy who she would like to hang out with. Mrs. Horton allows only supervised contact at their home.
Around 4pm the boy shows up, riding a bicycle. The boy introduces himself to Mr. Horton as Mark, a 13 year old.

As time progresses the two see eachother often. At first everything seemed fine until Mrs. Horton made some shocking discoveries – Mark was (now) 17. He had been lying the entire time. He was parking his car around the block and riding his bike up to the Hortons home.

Mrs. Horton immediately told her 11 year old daughter that she is never again to have contact with the 17 year old man. Outraged, Sarah threatens to leave.

A month later, as far as Joanie Horton could see the contact had ended. Things seemed to be going all right until May 18, 2004.

Sarah had went to bed around 10:30pm. She had said “Good night" to her mother and went into her room.
4:03am, Joaine is awoken from her sleep to the phone ringing. It is a call from St. Josephs hospital a few cities away. The woman told her that Sarah had been admitted after suffering from severe convulsions after in taking too much alcohol. The alcohol had came from an older boy named Mark.

As soon as Sarah was able to leave the hospital her mother drove directly to the police station and filed a report.

July 28, 2004 – Nothing has come of the police report. The MA police claim that since Mark denied all accusations of providing Sarah with alcohol there was nothing they could do.

As time went on the number of police report filed against Mark grew. Joanie says it was impossible to keep her daughter safe. She even Tried to get a restraining order against this man. The police offered no help in this situation. They claim that they can not arrest an 18 year old for spending time with a 13 year old.

An officer from the MA police department comments on this case, "Mark is not committing a crime. We understand Joanies frustration, but we must do our job according to the legal system."

Joanie's response to this was, "Why do we have to wait for our children to get pregnant, raped or killed for something to be done. This is an adult male preying on a child. For God's Sake, she is in her first year for Junior High and he is all ready out of High School."

Should there be something done in this case?

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re: appropriate

#597 On January 25, 2006 12:00pm o ceallaigh said,
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I pray that this is not your case. I do not have enough information to comment further on it - this is a matter for the professionals, anyway.

The one thing I would say to parents (being one myself): the best cure is prevention. My opinion: discuss sex and dating early and often with the kids, in age-appropriate ways but starting long before puberty. Watch programs that have sexual content (dating, flirting, dress etc. - this kind of stuff even appears on the Disney Channel) with your kids and be prepared to challenge and talk about the ideas and images presented there. If you haven't established the dialogue before your kid discovers sex, it's damned hard to establish it afterwards. You didn't want to get told "No, and because I said so" either.

I would do everything I could to discourage

#50510 On March 3, 2006 2:08pm Tottie said,
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A pretty difficult situation - I sympathise with the parents. The young girl is obviously in too deep and risks doing things that will jeopardise her future happiness. Yes, I think she is too young for this young man.

This is upsetting.

#50734 On March 5, 2006 2:39am Ivy Alexander said,

As a mother I was very upset to read this blog. It is a difficult situation. A 18 year old legal adult has no business with a 13 year old little girl. A 16 year old boy has no business with an 11 year old BABY! I would personaly make sure both the daughter and the boy friend's lives were a living hell, to the point that they wouldn't want to see each other. He would wish he was in jail by the time I got done with him!

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No No No

#50743 On March 5, 2006 5:37am tundrades said,

No. I had a simlar problem with my step daughter. Basicaly the same thing.

First off all I file a complaint against the police department. Also I would goto the town Mayor and council and tell them unless the police department followed up with the complaints you would sue the towns police department and the town for failure to protect. Tell them you will also report the story to the national media. Email me

Love is blind they say

#50753 On March 5, 2006 8:06am jasmiles said,

Love is blind they say

It's Not Appropriate for a 13 year old to Date ANYONE!

#50774 On March 5, 2006 10:11am NASCAR Fan said,

For parents who do let their young teens date (I'm not one of those, BTW) you have to check out the boys. It may sound old fashioned, but it would cut down on a lot of deceit that goes on in the teen dating world. Insist on knowing where they live, meeting the boy, knowing their phone numbers and calling their parent if they are going to spend time at your home, or with your teen anywhere.

Lock the doors, put in an alarm system and make sure your teen doesn't know the code on the alarm when it is set for night time security. Once they're in, they'll wake the dead trying to sneak out.

That may sound harsh, but you have to keep them safe.

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I agree

#50789 On March 5, 2006 12:57pm realitycheck said,
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I completely with waht everybody said. I got the idea for this blog from an episode of Maury. I was really disgusted to discover how many youngsters are in this situation and how little the police are willing to do about it.

the police

#50794 On March 5, 2006 1:14pm o ceallaigh said,
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For a cop to get involved in something like this in the absence of an evidentiary crime (i.e., they caught you with the bongs) is a great way to wind up on six months' administrative leave and spend the rest of your career in dead-end jobs on the force with no prospect of promotion.

This has been so ever since my generation labelled the police "pigs" for interfering with their LSD factories and anti-draft terrorism, and got a bunch of people to feel sorry for them, and a pack of smart lawyers to defend them.

Once again, my apologies to society on behalf of my generation.

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#50795 On March 5, 2006 1:17pm realitycheck said,
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I understand your point, but at the same time there needs to be something done in this kind of situation. I think it's the parents responsibility to do what they can. However, sometimes the parents can only do so much. I don't know what the solution is.

I know ...

#50798 On March 5, 2006 1:35pm o ceallaigh said,
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I don't know what the solution is.

Me neither. Prevention is important, as I've said. That's a parental but, I think, also a societal responsibility. We've become so desensitized to asocial imagery in these United States, I don't think we realize the extent to which such imagery has saturated everything - or its effects on the naive. Maybe we all need to reset the dial. To reclaim our lives, and better guide our children's, by embracing ... boredom ...

O'Ceallaigh, please don't

#51165 On March 8, 2006 7:57am IntricateGirl said,
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O'Ceallaigh, please don't apologize for your generation. Your generation may have instigated it, but mine is all too ready to put their brain on mute and deal with whatever has been handed to them because it's easier than actually doing anything themselves.

I cannot think of a situation where it is appropriate for a 13 year old to date an 18 year old. I also am upset to hear that the police aren't doing anything. Not surprised, but upset. Having never had need of a restraining order, don't you seek one from a judge, not an officer? If I were the parent, I'd be putting together a list of every time I went to the police. Then I'd hit the courthouse. Then I'd be calling my Senator. There's a lovely thing called Constituent Services. They may not do a damn thing in Congress, but they fall all over themselves to help people with issues such as this. And trust me, a Senator WILL get some results. Even if they what O'Ceallaigh said is true, nobody wants to listen to the police chief chewing their butt because a Senator was chewing theirs.

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#64893 On May 13, 2007 6:47pm xingtiao said,
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Well done, Intricate Girl. Once upon a time girl's and boys could get married at eleven, without ever having met, but even then they were supervised very strictly and not allowed the amazing drug of sex until the girl reached puberty. The laws are different now and in this complex and difficult society marriage is generally forbidden until eighteen. Very few people are able to keep themselves safe until that age and I think that is the measuring stick of an adult. A person is not an adult until they can be relied on to make good decisions for their own safety.

There was a time in my state of Australia when kids like the one in your story, Reality Check, could be taken into State care and I hate and disagree with that. It resulted in kids believing they were being punished, not protected. But I do believe there should be intervention, not fully by Police, but by some arm of government that has agents who understand the philosophical, social and psychological issues operating in these situations. It is a Child Protection issue.

This girl is an example of why our laws now specify eighteen as the age of marriage. Many people don't grow up according to my definition until they are over thirty.

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