I'm Firing My Son's Pediatrician.

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My son woke up this morning with a fever of 102 and no flu or cold symptoms. He had a bit of a fever yesterday but I though nothing of it as he was still playing and eating normally. But today he's been really out of sorts. My son has always been a very healthy infant and toddler and has never had any fevers which I know is rare. And which just makes me worry all the more when he wakes up feverish for no apparent reason.

I would like to attribute the fever and his sleepiness and lack of appetite all day (when normally he takes one short nap a day and eats like a horse) to the fact that he may be cutting his 2 year molars....but I keep reading so many conflicting opinions on this. So, like any parent would do, I call our pediatrician's office.

Now, I know it is Sunday and Mother's Day to boot. I don't expect the office to be open but I do know that during weekends, holidays and after hours, a dotor will be put on call. My son's pediatrician is a sweet guy. We have had no problems with him in the past, but he works as a part of a pediatrics clinic which means that when he is not on call one of his partners is. Go figure, that the one day I need to call in during non business hours, he is not the one on call.

I get told by the answering service that a Dr. So-and-so is on call and will get back to me within the hour. Ok. I can handle that although when your child is lethargic and has a high fever, an hour's wait seems excessive. An hour passes. Nothing. I wait an hour and a half and call back in. The answering service now tells me that the pediatrician on call got my message but does not want to take or make any calls until after 4pm. The girl at the service actually tells me to call back at 4 if it is urgent. WTF? I tell her, none too sweetly, that if it becomes any more urgent & the doctor hasnt called I will be heading to the ER, (I wanted to add that I did not plan on waiting for the pediatrician on call to finish her Mother's Day pedicure or whatever the hell she is doing so that I can talk to her.)

And because the pediatrics clinic that our son's doc is in has a policy that the actual doc your child sees cannot give out his/her own contact number for after hours, it looks like we are going to be hunting for a new pediatrician. I love our guy, but cannot handle calling in again when my son is sick and getting told that whoever is supposed to be on call is too busy to answer questions. I am sure this doc wanted to enjoy her Mother's Day, well so did I. But instead I have worried to the point of getting sick to my stomach and had to rely on the internet and WebMD for some info and solace. I just pray my baby is feeling better by tomorrow and that is really is his molars and nothing serious.

In my opinion, when you are a doctor and you are on call you should give every effort to perform your duties. If you have "plans" and want to enjoy your weekend then you need to trade duties with a colleague. Is that too much to ask? I am blown away by this behaviour.

By the way, I initially called in at 2pm. It is now 7:20pm and the pediatrician has yet to call. "Angry" is too light of a word to describe how I feel right now.

ModelMom – May 14, 2006 – 6:21pm

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Oh my gosh!

My doctor's office always calls back very promptly. They are a very big practice and a someone is always available. I would be totally pissed if that happened to me. I totally wouldn't stay with that practice either, and I'd make it VERY clear why.

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Brenna Fender – May 14, 2006 – 7:04pm

Brenna....

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thanks for asking.....I'm still worried, he had 101.9 fever when I put him down for the night. I gave him some Tylenol, and he drank his milk but only wanted about 6 spoonsful of applesauce. He normally goes to bed at 8pm but at 7 he was already asking for "night night". If he is still like this in the morning I am taking him in to the ped and after the consultation, I will be letting them know that that will be my last visit and definitely I will tell them why. I am seriously stunned by this.

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ModelMom – May 14, 2006 – 7:10pm

You know you can alternate tylenol and motrin, right?

You alternate them every three hours. It helps lower fevers.

Good luck tonight. It'll be a long one for you.

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Brenna Fender – May 14, 2006 – 7:30pm

Thanks Brenna

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I hadnt thought of trying that! I am going to have my hubby grab some Motrin on the way home from work tonight.

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ModelMom – May 14, 2006 – 8:15pm

Aw, Modelmom, I'm so sorry

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Aw, Modelmom, I'm so sorry your little guy isn't feeling well. I know it's scary, but he will be just fine. Until then, give him lots of hugs and kisses, keep checking his temperature, and keep calling that doctor. And maybe some Pedialyte would help.

I tend to think that cutting teeth doesn't "cause" the fever, and it shouldn't cause listlessness, but I think that because they put all kinds of things in their mouths to try and ease the pain, maybe they pick up something. But I could be wrong on that. The best news is that your son sounds very healthy, and he should be able to get better very quickly. Good luck you you both until then.

IntricateGirl – May 14, 2006 – 8:02pm

Thanks IntricateGirl

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Yeah, my son never got feverish with any of his other teeth, so I'm hesitant to think that it's definitely his molars causing it, but I've never seen himlike this, and it is heartbreaking and scary. Thank you so much for your vote of confidence that he'll be fine. It does make me feel a lot better to read that. I just want him to be back to my normal funny wild little guy. Man, motherhood is a bundle of worries, isnt it?

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ModelMom – May 14, 2006 – 8:18pm

Was he really wild the day

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Was he really wild the day before he got sick? Both of my kids go completely batty when they are getting sick, so it's kind of a predictor of when to expect something, and better yet, it can help you sort of pinpoint when he got sick, and what the cause might have been.

IntricateGirl – May 14, 2006 – 8:30pm

Not wilder than usual...

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he's a pretty wild one normally! lol! But he was super grumpy.....it just is so weird because he has no cold/flu symptoms...no runny nose, cough, sneezing...nothing! He is really gassy though.....gassy and feverish.

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ModelMom – May 14, 2006 – 8:42pm

Yeah, the grumpiness or the

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Yeah, the grumpiness or the wildness- I've noticed both. I just to just dismiss it as they were having an off day, but I've gotten better at picking up on when they are going to be sick. My son usually does the grumpiness, while my daughter becomes a whirling dervish.

Good luck to both of you.

IntricateGirl – May 14, 2006 – 8:46pm

i appreciate it Intricate...

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i'll update tomorrow....and hopeful the feer will have broken and i can share the good news! it sucks....my son was so grumpy and we were at teh store and i got so irritated at him, which now makes me feel SO guilty. poor guy. i cant wait until he can really tell me what's wrong....

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ModelMom – May 14, 2006 – 8:47pm

How is he today?

I'm anxious to hear how he is doing...

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Brenna Fender – May 15, 2006 – 8:34am

Glad you wrote this

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I am so glad you worte this. I have had a million problems finding a good doctor for my baby. I have had absolutely awful experiences. I think I'll blog about one of them today but here's one that was really scary:
When my son, Luke was about a week old he had only had one BM. I though it was odd. So I called the doctor and the guy told me that it's perfectly normal. I never had kids before so obviously I trusted him. Another three days pass, still no BM. I call back. The doctor tells me I don't need an appointment, just switch Luke to Soy formula. So I do that. five days later, still nothing. The baby is crying non stop...I can imagine why. So I make an emergancy appointment anyway. The doctor barely even looks my son over and tell me to give the infant PRUNE JUICE! Now, as I said, I knew nothing about kids. I just went by what the doc told me was right. While at that appointment I asked the doctor if he could look at my ear. I had been having terrible pain in it. I had never experienced any problems before. He told me it was wax build up and to put peroxide in to remove it. I buy the stuff and do this.

Another few days pass. My ear is so bad I was crying. My son was screaming from his pain too. Then I discover that a friend of the family is a doctor. I call the man nd he was shocked, and horrified, that this doctor was having me give a three week old prune juice. I guess it can actually kill an infant because their system is not able to break down the sugars (?). So I go to the friend doctor for an emergany appointment. My insurance, HAP, wouldn't cover it because the friend doctor was not Lukes Primary Physican, even though doctor #1 is a quack!
So I find out that all my son needed was some laxatives! That's it! He didn't need Soy or Prune!
The good doctor also looks at my ear and finds out that water was trapped inside. Without proper treatment I could have gone deaf. By this point my entire right ear was swollen shut from infection. The peroxide had ruptured some membrane or something and made things way worse! I had to be rushed to the emergancy room and had to undergo minor surgey! For three weeks I had these huge cotton gauze strips sticking out of my ear. The gauze was holding my swollen ear canal apart because ia barrier had to be inserted so the water can drain.

Ao I can understand first hand how terrible doctors can be. It's scary because we pay these people to help us and we trust thir judgement.
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realitycheck – May 15, 2006 – 8:58am

OMG RealityCheck, that is awful!

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Thanks for sharing your experience with another bad doctor....my god, that is awful. Poor youa nd poor baby!! I cannot even imagine the pain you both must have been going through. I hoep that doctor is no longer practicing. He can be dangerous.

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ModelMom – May 15, 2006 – 4:36pm

Update on my son

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Thanks for asking how he is doing today! Thankfully his fever broke a little after 10am and he has been his normal self all day although his apetite is still not fully back, but that's understandable. He keeps grinding his teeth too so it really must have to do with his 2 year molars...and he let me get my ginfer back in his mouth & I felt pretty swollen gums abck there. Poor guy!

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ModelMom – May 15, 2006 – 4:38pm

That's good news!

Glad to hear he's going better!

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Brenna Fender – May 15, 2006 – 4:59pm

Dr's

I felt empathy as I read your story about the Dr and your baby's BM. When I had my third child (so don't feel dumb) it seemed everything about him was abnormal. Choking, breathing, BM's ...almost everything. Almost every day for the first 3 weeks I had to call his Dr about something... I live in a small town so we have much more access to them but they also know us personally. It was embarrassing because they started treating me like a "First Time Mom " ---you know --over worried about nothing.
After 5 days of no BM, I needed to call them again but I was scared of their judgement. I thought about calling up and disguising my voice with an accent ---" Hola, This is Juanita Chaquita Bonitez and in five days now my little bambino he no go poop."
I would have done it too, but then I imagined what I would hear on the other end---" Kathy! We know that's you!"
Oh well...I guess in both of our cases ....it came out OK...in the end!

Home-remedies – May 15, 2006 – 6:41pm

That's GREAT!!!

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Ohmigod, I LOVE the "disguised voice"! I never thoguth of that but it is such a good idea! Oh, I'm laughing while typing this!
I can totally relate to calling the doc daily. Sometimes i would call different offices to ask their poinion so I didn't harass one dr. too much!

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realitycheck – May 15, 2006 – 7:40pm

lol.

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As far as the BM with children thing goes, here's my horror story with doctors.

My son was born, and he had some problems with jaundice because he was a BIG baby and it was a difficult delivery. He had to be on the bililights, so there were other concerns for us. Still, we noticed he wasn't really pooping. Because we were breastfeeding, we knew that it was supposed to be loose, but we could tell the difference between loose stools and urine. We told the doctor, and they chalked it up as us not knowing the difference between the two. He had one BM that first week, and that was it for a while.

At every appointment I brought it up (that should tell you how long this went on). For SIX WEEKS, he went without pooping. SIX (insert curse here) weeks!!!!! And the doctor used the excuse, "Some people have a different schedule." WTF?!?!?!?!?!??!?! Yeah, some go once a day and some go twice, but there ain't nobody going 6 weeks by choice.

We decide it's time to see another doctor. They don't know what to do. We find another. No clue. Each of these try a little harder, but most come to some conclusion that eventually the body will evacuate itself. I come to the conclusion that medical school involves heavy drinking.

So we go on for almost 4 years until we find a place of employment where we lived on the premises. There were doctors on staff, and one of them was one of the nation's leading child psychologists, and better yet, his own son was encopretic. That's the name for the condition my son has (encopresis). My son got treatment, and now, with a set schedule that he has to poop by, he's fine. Before that, he was going once every few months with a BM so violent that it would cause him to shake and scream in pain.

The doctors in that whole city were worthless (obviously). So I stopped taking him there.

IntricateGirl – May 16, 2006 – 4:43am

Blocked Poop. OMG!

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Yes, another reason I want to move to another country.....not that ALL countries have better medical systems, but from experience I know that there are countries where the docs seem to recieve far better training (or at least dont have to take Alchohol & Cocaine Ingestion 101....I loved your comment regarding the heavy drinking! lol!) and where they seem to relly care for their patients. Your porr baby! That is outrageous and horrific. I had read prior to giving birth that some babies are born with closed or blocked up urethras and also sphincters.....I jumped for joy the first time my son peed and pooped in the hospital because I was so paranoid he would have one of these conditions. I cant imagine being told by a doc that your son's condition was "normal". He must have suffered so much, poor little thing. Gas pains can be horrible and he must have felt that tenfold.

It really makes you wonder how many people die or are seriously hurt byt these doctors and their misdiagnosis. It makes me worry like nobodies business. My mother had several lumps removed from her breasts when I was a child. She went the FOUR doctors in Los Angeles and told them that she had pain in her breasts, could feel a lump, etc......they took scans, hand checked her, etc. and said that the lumps were due to her period, hormones, etc. We went to Miami later to visit family and my mom went to a Cuban doctor who gave her a manual breast exam, told her she had fibroids cysts, set up and appt. and she got them removed. Thankfully she is intact to this day. Last year she was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis while cisitng my father's cousins in Hungary! IN HUNGARY!!! She had been suffering from all of this pain and lethargy for years and the doctors she was seeing her kept telling her she was just menopausal. She comes back to the US, tells her doctor what the findings in Hungary were and he runs some tests and then agrees that she is right.

I can go on forever. In my post I said that overall I had had good experiences with docs but the more I think if it, the more I think I was fooling myself. When I was 2 I developed a chronic runny nose, sneezing and wheezing. My mom took me to three doctores telling them she thought I had allergies. My main pediatrician laughed her off and my parents finally paid out of pocket to see a pediatric allergist.....ran tests, and voila....little ModelMom had severe environmental allergies. I went on to get shots every week for the next 16 years.

And dont get me started on ER doctors who are made to work ungodly amounts of hours and who I know for a fact (many of them at least) are on Meth and Cocaine just to stay awake. No wonder people get the wrong limb cut off, etc.

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ModelMom – May 16, 2006 – 8:20am

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