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Guru and Elance: Are They Worth It For Writers?

I've been doing some reassessment of the way that I spend my time - and something's gotta give. Last year I signed up with Elance. I very quickly realised that if I wanted to have a shot at any decent jobs, I needed to move up from the basic level. As I had a bit of money in the bank, I decided the risk was worth it. I upgraded (at a cost of about $25 a quarter) to the next level - for which I received the princely (NOT) total of three free leads a month. Anything over that, I would have to pay extra for. OK, I thought, I'll give it a go. What did I get from that signup - zip, zilch, nada, bupkes (can you tell I like that phrase?). I was invited to bid on one project, bid on a couple more, but mostly couldn't believe how low some people were willing to bid for a skilled writing job. I mean, 100 SEO-optimized articles for $100 - come on!

I cancelled my Elance membership and moved on to Guru. Straight away I liked the setup better. I had to spend more time setting up my profile and resume, but the project notifications system worked well (with daily update emails) and there seemed more guarantees that you would get paid. Furthermore, for the about $80 a year (the exchange rate worked in my favour), I got 100 leads a month and MUCH better projects to bid on. The way the jobs are presented is better, with a lot more detail in most cases - and the site layout it good.

I've had some success with Guru (a couple of leads that turned into small jobs), but I noticed a few things.First, many of the jobs were the same as the ones posted on Elance. Second, there were still people expecting a lot of work for not very much money. Third, it was still almost as hard to convert a project invitation into actual paid work.

I've paid for Guru, so I'll keep my subscription going till it runs out in December, but I won't be renewing. The time I spend trawling through the job listings could be better spent on craigslist - another good source of job leads - or developing my website, which is where a lot of enquiries are coming from these days. Looks like my promotional activities have paid off.

So that's my take on Guru, Elance and work exchanges in general. Unless someone can point me to one that works, I'm not going to pay for leads any more. After all, one of my best opportunities has come from blogging at WritingUp. I know how I'd rather spend my time.

Thanks for reading.

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missmaster's picture

Welcome to the wonderful (shit) world of the writer!

I hear ya. I was pissed off with Elance and Guru, especially since they charge you. I think bidding on projects is not a good way to go, especially if you are trying to earn a living from writing. I'm in the same boat as you, my Guru subscription is still running. Typical how you can't get the rest of your money back from them when you notice it's crap, huh?

I've been checking out Get a Freelancer but I think it's the same as Elance and Guru. The biggest problem is there are tons of writers out there willing to work for peanuts. This drops the price for all of us and prevents us from getting paid what we're worth.

I'd stick with Craigslist too. And avoid FreelanceWorkExchange like the plague! As far as I can tell it's a complete and utter scamathon.

What I would like to see is a site for writers (all types, not just article writers or novelists, but seo'ers and copywriters (like me) too) that are completely telecommute/work from home/offsite (however you wanna word it).

If anyone knows of such a site please share it with us (or with me, hehe).

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Yes, I've wanted something

Yes, I've wanted something like that myself. Have you tried Deborah Ng's freelance writing jobs list? BTW, well done for snagging that domain name - I'm jealous :)

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missmaster's picture

Great blog

I like Deb's work on her job list page. She's so dedicated. That's so rare to provide something for nothing (except maybe recognition) to complete strangers.

Thanks for the comment on the domain name. When I was thinking of something to choose I thought of that but wasn't sure if it sounded too up my own ass or not. But I reckon if you don't put your name out there any way you can, who the hell will?

I noticed you do a writing newsletter. Here's a deal for ya: you subscribe to mine and I'll subscribe to yours. I'm gonna add a link to the subscribe page on my sig so look out for it.

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I haven't paid for leads

It doesn't sound like a good idea, from your experiences. I'm working the old fashioned way, pretty much, submitting and querying. Now I have editors who assign me things, which is really the way to go. I'm a magazine article writer, mostly, and so this method works well for me. The niche has been the key - I write almost completely about dogs and dog sports. It's a smaller world, and work for one mag leads to work for another and so on...

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I must admit I don't get

I must admit I don't get anything from those agencies, and at the moment I hardly need ot bid either.

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Yes, niching is def the way to go...

I agree completely. I mean, if you were going to buy a nice Mercedes, would you rather buy it from an all-make salesman or a solely Mercedes salesman?

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