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First Comes GAY MARRIAGE, then POLYGAMY GAY MARRIAGE & POLYGAMY If a man and a woman are in love they get married. If a man and a man fall in love, they can get married in some states. But what if a man and a man and a woman fall in love? This is a new term that is actively being argued called “group marriage »
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"Marriage" vs. "Procreation"
Some of these quasi-governmental proposals go so far as to suggest the abolition of marriage.
What?!? Intelligence in government? Hoo hah!!
MARRIAGE, n. A union of convenience between (usually) two persons with otherwise opposite and incompatible desires and motivations, consummated for the sole purpose of making claims on public funds. Marriage benefits were originally intended to support the raising of children, but as the benefits have increased so have the reasons and the means for extorting them, while the children are left to roam the streets.
- The New Millennium Devil's Dictionary
Just about every "marriage" style that humans can imagine, and 2,485 others besides, is to be found among the animals. The style that any given species uses is the one, that over time, gives the offspring the best chance of surviving to the next generation. In other words, it's not about you, it's about the kids.
Humans differ from other animals, in how they manage sexual behaviors, in at least four ways:
1) Humans do not have a "season" for copulation. The playthings spend 40 years and more singing the Coast Guard anthem, Semper Paratus (Always Ready).
2) Humans have a concept of sex as play. In fact, the "recreational" aspects of sexual behavior have become a nearly-essential part of the bonding process, to ensure that the breeding partners remain together through the 18 loooooooooooooooooooooong years needed to bring Matilda to adulthood. (Incidentally, the concept of maturity at 18 is a Victorian-era imposition on society. In earlier times, the age of maturity was, duh, at or shortly after the age of puberty. "Girls of 15 sexually knowing" was the norm, Mr. Townsend. Juliet was 16, and the Capulets Senior were already being needled for keeping their daughter an old maid.)
3) Humans have technology to control reproduction.
4) Humans can and do change their reproductive style to suit conditions. Single parenting reflects a condition where resources are available to the caregiving adult (usually, for obvious reasons, the mother); couples and polygamous arrangements (the "harems" of antiquity) reflect conditions where such resources are not available outside of some sort of partnership. In other animals, where resources for rearing offspring are available to the mother, the male exists only for the sex act; he is otherwise viewed as competition for those resources, and is driven away, or killed. And you wonder why it's guys who are usually in the vanguard of the "traditional marriage" forces ...
So, to repeat. It's not about you. As far as I am concerned, you can get your rocks off any way you choose, so long as I don't have to pay for it. In money, or the spread of diseases, or in tending for the offspring that you carelessly spawn in the process of recreating yourselves. Be sure to thank a scientist for the technology that allows you to do this.
It's about the kids. Convince me that you have the financial and personal/spiritual (for want of a better set of words) resources to raise children through to maturity, so that they're not walking the streets or "on the town", and then I will grant you a procreation license.
This is what rampant tolerance can lead to
If we are going to allow gay marriage in the name of tolerance, then it seems only fair that we allow polygamy and other marriages. This would include adults to children, humans to animals, etc. This is only fair. How can we, as a liberal, tolerant nation, allow one group to marry, but completely exclude other groups? Who are we to determine what is considered appropriate? God knows, we can't use the Bible or any other religious text as a standard, especially when it comes to making laws.
Please note - most of this comment was written tongue-in-cheek.
Are you sure this comment was not just written...
completely ignorant? Do you think there are laws against adults marrying children? They are certainly very limited and anything but uniform if they exist. And, they certainly didn't come about due to the Bible.
Anyway, pointing out how ignorant you are is getting old so let me just address the polygamy issue real quick.
While the whole polygamy issue exists as a scare tactic of the religious right, is there really any foundation for this fear? Like with most of the cow dung that comes from the religious right, no. Marriage is a contract between two consenting adults. In the adults marrying children discussion above, legal guardians of a child can substitute for one or both parties if underage.
Is the religious right shooting themselves in the foot over this one? Maybe. I don't know a whole heck of a lot about polygamy other than the fact that it happens illegally under abusive circumstances in Utah. Perhaps to legalize polygamy would save many children from sexual abuse. I don't really know. I do know I'd want information on the whole issue before making a decision, whereas before the religious right brought up this issue I was perfectly find just accepting their ban.
Doh!
As far as human and animal marriage... who ever heard of an animal entering into a contract?
Very simply,
Gay marriage does not affect my own marriage. All the gay couples in the world can get married, and it does not affect the marriage between myself and my husband. All of MY benefits of marriage still exist.
Polygamist marriage fundamentally affects the status of my own marriage. If my husband chooses to take another wife, my own marriage is changed, and the benefits of marriage must be stretched between however many spouses there are.
I'd only come here seeking peace.
I'd only come here seeking me.
It seems I came to leave.
-VNV Nation