Death Row inmates

Dieing by leathel injection

There's a topic that rates as much contraversy as abortion and that is execution. It's hard to explain how I feel. Because I dont believe its presenting a good example to kill someone who kills someone. But I have the flip side of if you kill someone I love you should die. But the latest excuses they wont kill Mr. Moralis is because they cant find a Dr to inject the cocktail,stating that it is creul and unusual punishment.

When I heard this it outraged me because what these death row inmates did to their victims wasnt a picnic. Wasnt that creul and terrifying. Why should we give considerations to those who killed our loved ones.

Yes I know there's going to be others who scold me because of my views, But i think of it as I said earlier if you kill someone I love I am going to seek revenge. If I cant do it myself, I would like to be the one who throws the switch or inject the needle and watch as life dies in their eyes as they must have watched the life drain out of their victims.

As for abortion. Thats a hard call because each case is different. what a woman does to her body is not my call and I would not want someone telling my what to do with my body so it's not my right to tell another woman what to do with hers.

ok I'm through ranting. Evening all.

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IamTammy©'s picture

If you believe in a higher power, they decide their fate, but...

If someoone kills my son, they won't have to worry about deciding his death penalty fate. I'll take care of the sucker myself, however I have to do it.....kill now, plead insanity later~ isn't that how it's done? And do you think I'm gonna pull one of the old standards someone sentenced to death does?

"Oh, I'm so sorry for what I've done, and God has shown me the way."

God will know why I went awol apesh*t, and I'll deal
with him later. I know that also sounds terrible, but if he didn't care about my child's life, why should I care about his? Or, let's get him therapy, release him, and have him go do it again, ok?

Hey, it's your money.

I will have just saved you hundreds of thousands upon thousands of your tax dollars that you could be using to feed your own clan instead of him hiding behind Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, claiming to be reformed.

Tottie's picture

It is a dilemma.

At this moment several young Australians are in an Indonesian jail, waiting to be executed for their part in drug trafficking. There are several issues here - anyone who goes to Indonesia would know that they have very strict laws about drug trafficking and the punishment is death. So why would they go, with drugs packed around their bodies and expect to (a) get away with it and (b) not face the death penalty.

I have said before, if it was me, I'd rather be dead than spend the rest of my miserable life in gaol.

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IamTammy©'s picture

Not the Drugs, man~

Yeah, but some countries' laws are still 3rd world. I don't think anyone should be put to death for drugs on such a small scale.

Some people will do anything for the right amount of money, regardless of consequences. Hell, people shoot convenience store clerks for less than 20 bucks. The money may be too good to pass up the threat of being caught, or, desperateness for the money, or they just don't care in the first place.

No one can know why a person really does what they do because we're not in their head, and frankly? I think we're better off not being able to, darlin. Some scary heads out there~

o ceallaigh's picture

re: death penalty

I think, in general, that when a society is strapped for cash or resources, you'll find that "judicial death" is in vogue, e.g. death penalties for trivial offenses, a positively-viewed suicide code, etc. Practically always applied disproportionately towards males, the expendable sex.

Whereas a more wealthy society, which is strapped for labor to manage its resources, will discover uses for even its most venial criminals, and "judicial deaths" like death penalties and suicides fall out of vogue. Such has been the history of our own United States, which inherited a draconian death penalty code from resource-strapped England and quickly discarded it because resources were abundant and labor scarce, every hand was needed.

I fall back on Tolkien in the Lord of the Rings, who had his wizard
Gandalf say "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be eager to deal out death in judgment."

IamTammy©'s picture

LOTR

omg, I'm a disgusting fan of the trilogy. I've never quite paralled LOTR with the death penalty before, but it makes sense. lol

o ceallaigh's picture

Gandalf

The "death penalty" bit is in The Fellowship of the Ring, while Gandalf and Frodo are discussing the Ring and Bilbo's acquisition of it. Frodo, as you probably recall, can't believe that the pity that prevented Bilbo from taking Gollum out after Bilbo's finding of the Ring was a good thing. Frodo thought Gollum "deserved death". Ta da ... Tolkien, as you probably know, was a formidable scholar as well as a gifted writer. The scholarship practically busts its way out of the books, like with no other fantasy I've read, including that of his contemporary and erstwhile buddy C. S. Lewis. I'm not as trivia- or merchandise-intense as some, but I love the books. Haven't yet seen all three Peter Jackson movies, though (no. 3 still eludes me - and the DVD is useless 'cause I don't have TV or a player - that's a long story).

reformed?

I agree with IamTammy, if someone where to kill my child they better hope the police get there. As for being reformed and back on track I find that hard to believe. I havent done the research yet but there are those that say they have reformed and are "cured" yet immediately get out and begin focusing on their next victim while all the while we are blind to what is about to happen.

If they are on the straight and narrow and wanting to live a lawful life afterwords, why are so many child molesters not registered. and accounted for?

o ceallaigh's picture

re: reformed

As for being reformed and back on track I find that hard to believe.

Believe it or not, there's a serious scientific field that examines this phenomenon in general terms. It's called "career choice". If I remember rightly, the "sex offender" thing is somewhat similar to what happens when we decide to become dancers, or bankers, or (shock horror) marine biologists. What goes into deciding to become X, and why is it so hard to give X up even when all the facts tell us it's the right thing to do? We don't understand any of this very well - or if we do, I haven't found out about it. We do know that some people change careers in mid-life, and do it without trouble. And there is reformation and redemption in this world, through the same process. If we could only bottle it ...

IamTammy©'s picture

Hey O and Rachel~

O'dear~

You're correct. Niquil, remember? ;-) Hence, posting at 6:40am central~ And yes. I totally know the scene of which you post~ (my dear, when you get set up, you have GOT to get the trilogy, take a lazy day with nothing to do, some popcorn and watch them all. It's a looooooooooong watch, but it's so worth it. It truly is tremendous.)

I received my book The Hobbit, a paperback, from a teacher/friend that lived next door when I was a child, and still have it.

Rachel~

ANYway, I know that maybe an elite few can be reformed, but also, if they've gotten away with something for so many years like molestation, or heck, remember Jeffrey Dahmer? He ate his evidence.

A few months or years cannot help them if they're not getting intense psychotherapy, and even then, there are no guarantees. Some people are just truly sick, evil, or a happy lil' combo of both~ they've actually given warning signs, begged for help, and it's been ignored.

But there are always, ALWAYS signs, no matter how minute. It's just up to people to either notice them, or not ignore them. Whenever you see a neighbor that has a news crew mic stuck in his/her face, what do you hear?

"Gosh, he was always so quiet, polite, kept to himself......I can't believe he'd do this."

He may have eaten your dog that went missing last year~ you don't know.

Ignorance is bliss, I suppose~

totally true

you really dont know.And yes there are warning signs. But as a society are we at a stage that we would rather be more comfortable punishing them after they have done something that could have been provented. Then helping them to get the help that they need before they get to the point of no return.

Its almost like giving patrenting classes to parents after they have commited an offence wouldnt it be better to give these classes so they dont get in trouble?

o ceallaigh's picture

re: totally true

Its almost like giving patrenting classes to parents after they have commited an offence wouldnt it be better to give these classes so they dont get in trouble?

Yes. But that means work. And money. Sigh.

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