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Betrayal

honesty | loyalty | trustworthiness

So here's the deal. This past week, I laid out a plan for some changes I wanted to make where I'm consulting. The employees weren't happy about most of them; as a matter of fact, they were downright hostile. I never expected it, based on how we'd been getting along before then, and I couldn't understand how I'd misread it. I'd even shared it with the person who was directly under me, and she thought it would be a good idea.

During the meeting, however, she really didn't support me, and I found that troubling. After the meeting, once this person went to lunch, one of the employees who supported me said that the employees knew this plan was coming beforehand, though I had only told one person. Then she mentioned something else to me that I hadn't realized she knew, and asked me once again to think about who I had mentioned it to. Both times, the only person I mentioned it to was this direct person under me.

Man, I felt betrayed; if there's one major thing with me, it's trust. It's not loyalty, because one earns that, but if one betrays my trust,... Well, I was upset for the rest of the day, though I didn't stay long, and on the way home I decided to call the administrator who I report to and told him the story. He's been thinking about firing her, for some of the same reasons, and I'd been supporting her because I hadn't seen any of this type of behavior, but at this juncture, I felt like there was no way I could work with her anymore. I'm betting she's been going behind me and saying all sorts of things to these people, and if you can't trust your top supervisor, then that person has just got to go. And, upon reflection, there were many other things I wasn't happy about.

But I'm curious how the rest of you might view this sort of thing, from a non-management perspective. Obviously I'm not in a position to fire anyone, since I'm not an employee, but giving a negative report that gets someone fired isn't usually up my alley either. Should there be second chances for an open violation of trust?

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Personally Catfish- I side with you on this

i think she should be fired. I cant stand anyone who betrays trust. It is like lying in my book. I cant stand a lier. Sounds like she was just agreeing with you, and had her own agenda with the employees. She should have supported you all the way. If she didn't agree with what you were coming up with, she should have been honest with you. I think this would make your job more difficult with everyone not liking what you came up with, and her rooting them along behind your back. If she were my employee, she would be gone. This is probably not the first time she has done something like this, but is the first time someone has reported her, or mabey she has been reported before, but either way, it is definately a stab in the back.

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It's happened before, Ammorton,...

before I got there, but of course there was no proof of it, and I never condemn someone for something that doesn't happen on my watch. Thing is, I had the feeling that they weren't really all that much into her to begin with, and maybe that's her way of getting them on her side. No matter at this point, right?

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Ouch

I think in any work situation there needs to be a great deal of trust. Especially with anyone in any kind of supervisory position. So, yes, I think she should be fired, especially if this is a pattern. Clearly she cannot be trusted with any kind of information – and that is not good. I think you did the right thing by calling the supervisor.

Well leave it to me to be the one that disagrees!

Sassys

I think that prior to having this lady fired...That's pretty rough in todays job market...I would have pulled her ass aside and explained that her behavior has alienated the other employees and that she should be above gossiping with them to begin with...but when someone gets fired it truly devastates their lives...think twice before doing something like that...your feelings may have been hurt but getting her fired can get your karma all screwed up dude! What if she then becomes homeless? Yes she was stupid at best...but YOU are not, to rise above is the key here.

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But Sassys, you missed something,...

in what I wrote, that being she wants to be fired. She asked me a couple of days after I got there if I could find a way to get this guy to fire her. She doesn't want to be there, but she's duplicitous. She will do some amazing things, and works all the time, but then she'll cause dissension, be on the phone all day long, talk about everyone and spreads as much gossip as possible. She was talked to by other people before I ever got there, and I never judge people based on what someone else tells me. So, I'd have no guilt if she suddenly wasn't there; she'd have achieved exactly what she wants.

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