Bad Boys vs. Nice Guys

Submitted by myspaceoryours on March 29, 2006 - 5:48pm.

I was chatting with a friend recently about the whole bad boys vs. nice guys phenomenon and which type most women prefer...

Here are my thoughts... there's 2 single guys at work that are ... not bad-looking, smart and interesting... ;-)

One of them is tall with dirty blonde hair... very clean cut, neat dresser...the kind of guy who is nice to everybody. He's the type who would go broke trying to charm a girl on a first date... and who would send you a fresh bouquet of spring flowers every week AFTER the first date.

The other guy is not as tall (but taller than me), but he has dark hair/dark eyes. He also has tattoos and a bad attitude. This guy walks around the building as if "Bad To The Bone" was playing in the background... (and it probably IS playing in his head.)

He's NOT so well-liked by people... in fact his staff talks about him every chance they get. He growls when talks to people sometimes (even to me!) and I know for a fact that he hasn't dated anyone in 3 years (how I know is a story I'll save for a future blog). ;-)

Any guess as to which one I'm more attracted to?

*sigh* Yup...

Why is that? Why don't I like the sweet, nice guy more? Why is "bad" so damn attractive?

Do bad boys ever turn into nice guys?

Any bad boys OR nice guys out there that can answer this question? I'd love to hear your opinion. :)

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o ceallaigh Says:
March 29, 2006 - 6:01pm

from the opposite wall.

Yeah, it's mine. Addresses part of your question maybe.


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myspaceoryours Says:
March 29, 2006 - 6:17pm

:) Thanks... I don't think I'd seen that before...

So are you a nice guy or a bad boy? (Although I think I already know the answer...)

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o ceallaigh Says:
March 29, 2006 - 6:45pm

... but if you hadn't seen from the opposite wall, you probably haven't seen grunge at 51 either. Which should leave no doubt. :)


stormriders Says:
March 29, 2006 - 6:22pm

Because nice is boring , you want someone to treat you like dirt(because that rebellious attitude makes him more "cool") but also able to manage you while looking "cool". you rather be excited by the "cool" appeal , its a greater challenge. And your attracted to his "cool" image.

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gom jabbar Says:
March 29, 2006 - 6:26pm

I'm not sure what kind of relationship you are looking for, but I'll tell you what I know from experience (and you may already know this). Bad boys don't stick around long, at least in my case he didn't, but there's certain things I won't tolerate.

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myspaceoryours Says:
March 29, 2006 - 6:27pm

I wouldn't say I'm looking for someone to treat me like dirt ... but I think you have the "exciting" and "bigger challenge" thing right ;-)

By the way, I like your blog (the Blogger one) :)

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myspaceoryours Says:
March 29, 2006 - 6:31pm

LOL... now people are going to think I want some guy who will abuse me... ;-) No, that's definitely not the type of relationship I'm looking for...

I guess I should've mentioned that this "bad boy" I'm talking about has some good qualities too.. he CAN be nice... and sweet... and even vulnerable... we've had conversations about his situation at work. I think I'm drawn to him because he opened up about that, actually... but he is definitely not as approachable as the "nice guy" I mentioned either... and you won't find many people at the office who have good things to say about him...that's all...

But thanks for your warning... I totally agree :)

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gom jabbar Says:
March 29, 2006 - 6:36pm

That's cool. Good luck! And watch out for yourself.

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myspaceoryours Says:
March 29, 2006 - 6:41pm

He just has a bad boy image... but it doesn't matter both he and the "nice guy" are managers at my company... which brings up another set of challenges... so I doubt anything will happen with either. I am just confused about WHY I like one so much more than the other...when it seems that it should be the other way around...

Oh well, I can still have my crush, can't I? :)

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D Weezy Says:
March 30, 2006 - 5:45am

I'm a nice guy or at least I like to think so. In my experience being a nice guy only works if you've got time to put into the courtship. However, if you're trying to get some bang for your buck then you have to at least act like a bad boy.

Now most of my experience comes from trying to pick up women in college bars and more recently bars in NYC. The bad boy act has definitely payed higher dividends in the bars. I would think being a nice guy would be more attractive but for some reason you women want the bad boy.

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myspaceoryours Says:
March 30, 2006 - 5:11pm

Well, I think I'd eventually like to marry a nice guy... maybe with a little "bad boy" in him...

But yeah... the "bad boy" is just more appealing... at this point in my life anyway.

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realitycheck Says:
March 30, 2006 - 7:15am

I too am attracted to bad boys. I think it's because they always keep you guessing. With a nice boy (my hubby) I can predict his every move.
It's kinda like when men say that they would date a stripper, but not take her home to meet the folks. Women want bad boys but not as a real relationship. We want to play the "suspense" game. First, it's a challenge to lure him in. Then it's the challenge of keeping him.


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myspaceoryours Says:
March 30, 2006 - 5:17pm

Yeah, whenever I date a "bad boy" I have to figure out HOW to introduce him to my family (IF it gets that far) and how to explain things... like his tatoos, motorcycle and "beer room"....*sigh*... it IS more about the challenge and "shock factor"... but trying to tame someone gets old fast...

I guess deep down I really do want the "nice guy" :)

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o ceallaigh Says:
March 30, 2006 - 5:24pm

Of Peacocks, Bad Boys, and the Size That Matters

Probably sometime this weekend.

Wait for it ...


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myspaceoryours Says:
March 30, 2006 - 5:28pm
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James Champion Says:
March 30, 2006 - 9:09am

I think women like when a bad boy is nice to them. So although he has this rough exterior with everyone else, but he treats you like gold it feels that much better.


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myspaceoryours Says:
March 30, 2006 - 5:18pm

That's definitely a big part of the bad boy's appeal... when people complain about how difficult he is and yet when he's with me... he's sweet and gentle... and totally different. It makes you feel like there must be something really special about you to have that kind of effect on him...

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pchan33 Says:
May 1, 2006 - 6:12pm

Because mr nice guy is already nice to you, you don't have to try to win his affection, so there is no passion. It would be boring. But with the bad guy, even though he might break your heart (or someone's face, lol), there would be passion.

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IntricateGirl Says:
May 1, 2006 - 6:57pm

Pchan kinda touched on it. The bad boys are unattainable by anyone. So if you can get one, it's like you've conquered the unconquerable. At least for the 15 minutes he sticks around.

At least that's the way it was for me. I could have had any nice guy I wanted. But it was the Groucho Marx syndrome. "I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member." Only for me, it would be, "I refuse to date anyone who would want to date me." lol It made for a lot of frustration. The boy who wanted me to be an one time fling. The boy who wanted me to be a foot shorter. The boy who wanted me to play stupid. I couldn't be any of those things to any of them. Finally I found my hubby who seemed like a REALLY bad boy, but is nothing more than a sweetheart. He wanted me to be me. I just didn't find this out until after he sucked me in with the whole bad boy routine.


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myspaceoryours Says:
May 1, 2006 - 8:52pm

pchan & IntricateGirl - there's just something about that bad boy routine that is hard to resist... nothing against the nice guys...just that sometimes a girl wants "passion" and not "predictability"... :)

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Drake Bobby Says:
May 2, 2006 - 3:38am

I don't think I have much to add to this except yea it certainly does suck being a nice dude.

I decided a few years ago to switch up game plans and it's worked a lot better but at the same time it sucks having to play a role that isn't you, just to get females to at least consider looking at the real you.

to be honest i'm in a situation now where for the first time, being the uncontrollable bad boy has backfired and I've had to ring it in and cut back on telling her all the stories that happen to me...but yea...nice guys finish last most of the time.

but wah wah wah!!!

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o ceallaigh Says:
May 2, 2006 - 5:09pm

it sucks having to play a role that isn't you, just to get females to at least consider looking at the real you.

Man is that ever in the gold! And if you get one that actually does look at the real you, well, tell me how you did it. Mostly, you (or I anyway) discover that you're stuck in costume forever. Ask for something real? I did once ... the response was "Hire a maid". And then she ran off with a guy addicted to prostitutes.

Anything more I could say on this, I've already said. Like, I don't even try any more.


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IntricateGirl Says:
May 2, 2006 - 6:05pm

I don't think guys have a lock on pretending to be someone they aren't. Women have mascara and lipstick that is so complicated it must be applied in two steps. We wear 6 inch heels because one guy, who later proved to be a pervert, told her she would look sexy in them. We wear push-up underwire bras, for the love of all that is holy!!!

Maybe *that* is how I knew my hubby was the one. Our first kiss was when I was feeling very unwell. He knew this, but leaned in to kiss me anyway. I thought he was being soooooo dangerous. He must be a real bad boy to mess risk full-on germ warfare. lol Now, I realize it was the sweetheart shining through. It was a message that he could deal with me being myself. In other words, not perfect.

But I will grant you that I think guys have it worse. You always hear about the bad boy vs the nice guy, but for females, it's simply the girl you would take home to mother or not. And I know plenty of guys that take home the wrong kind of girl anyway. lol Guys seem to have to fall in one category or the other, or a lot of girls don't know what to think of them. And yet we complain that one is breaking our heart and the other isn't attractive to us. Poor guys. No doubt it's gotta be difficult.


linknfisher Says:
November 27, 2007 - 1:47pm

Breaking out the bad boy thing is OK which to me means breaking off a serious piece of attitude, but airing the dirty laundry about the chicks that have been bagged etc. That sounds like slime boy more than bad boy.

Of course what the hell do I know I am stuck on "Go" as nice guy.

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Evil_Bob Says:
May 2, 2006 - 10:15am

I started out as a "Bad Boy", then enjoyed a rather meteoric evolution up the ladder from "troubled" to my present EVIL station and I can say with conviction- (and I know all about being convicted!)- that the females that I have consorted with have always thanked me for the "eye-opening" experiences that were shared between myself and those chain-smoking, shot-slamming, pole-dancing vixens. Ahhh...Good Times They Were. MOO-HA-HA-HAaaaaaaa...(heavy sigh)

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MizzQueen Says:
May 2, 2006 - 11:55am

I like bad boys that can treat me good. It shows that they aren't all bad and that he can change for you. A female feels real good when she knows that a guy could change just for her

-iF nOt Me thEn wHo?


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James Champion Says:
May 2, 2006 - 12:21pm

I would say that most guys are nice guys when it comes down to it. It's just the exterior that may be a little rough. And maybe a little bit of the interior, but when I guy feels a certain way about a woman he will show it. One important difference in a "bad boy" and a "nice guy" is maybe how soon and emphatically they show those feelings.


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myspaceoryours Says:
May 2, 2006 - 2:44pm

If I didn't know better, I'd say MizzQueen was flirting with you! ;-)

Must be your new pic :)

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ModelMom Says:
May 2, 2006 - 3:47pm

I landed myself an ex- bad boy who still looks like a bad boy (whos hsowers daily though! lol!) but who is a very nice guy, and awesome dad. They do exist, this wonderful mix of manhood! ;-)

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James Champion Says:
May 2, 2006 - 4:43pm

If I didn't know better I'd think you were flirting with me too. I'll take you noticing my pic as a compliment. Thanks.


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myspaceoryours Says:
May 2, 2006 - 5:01pm

Never ;-)

Yeah, your pic reminds me of that other guy w/no shirt...what's his name again? haha...

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James Champion Says:
May 2, 2006 - 5:09pm

1 click too many


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James Champion Says:
May 2, 2006 - 5:10pm

I feared your response. I tried not to write it, but the opening was there. Yea I posted a pic with my shirt off, but I am the same dude clutching the beer can a couple days ago. I think my blogs consist of more substance than what you think of my body. And actually I segued into the introduction of my new pic by saying I posted the pic in order to stay on your level. I am surprised you attacked one of your buddies so easily.


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myspaceoryours Says:
May 2, 2006 - 5:18pm

I just now read what you wrote in your blog...so yes, I take it back. Your pic does not remind me of ... that other guy. :)

And you of all people do not have to take your shirt off to get people to read your blogs... ;-)


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James Champion Says:
May 2, 2006 - 5:26pm

thanks


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myspaceoryours Says:
May 2, 2006 - 5:33pm

That doesn't sound like the OC I know... you can't give up just because of one...or two...or however many bad experiences. If your desire is to find a woman that you can have a real, honest relationship with...then keep trying! Bad guy or nice guy...what women want is someone REAL... and the ones who don't... well, you don't want to be with them anyway. ;-)


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Drake Bobby Says:
May 3, 2006 - 4:11am

Yea O'C, i gotta agree with Myspace. If we stop playing the game all together it just seems like there is no point.

But I hear how you feel.

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o ceallaigh Says:
May 3, 2006 - 7:17am

This is a 1930's era story by James Thurber that has an absolutely hilarious take on all this. His boys don't have much success either. But there's a line in it that says something like "getting up in the morning, splashing cold water on your face, and going out to try again". Drip, drip ...


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