Several articles online indicate there is much doubt about both the "Jesus ossuary" and the more recently discovered "James ossuary".

One article I found that mentions both ossuaries. Including the fact that "Jesus" (Yeshua), "Joseph" (Yosef), and "James" (Ya'akov, Jacob) are among the most common Jewish names in 1st century CE Judea. The Macleans article mistakenly indicates that the transliterated script is "Hebrew"; it is almost certainly Aramaic, a cognate language written in Hebraic letters - the Hebrew of Jesus is usually transliterated "Yoshua" or "Joshua", not "Yeshua". Hebrew was already falling out of use in Judea two centuries before the start of the common era (common in the sense of a single calendar system used worldwide, dated to the [miscalculated] birthdate of Jesus of Nazareth).

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I beg your pardon o ceallaigh? A family grave has been found which does contain the names of the people associated with the New Testament Jesus!

As to whether or not it was the family which inspired the New Testament tales that is an entirely different matter.

I was a member of an exclusive group in 1996 where this was published (Orion) and I read the story regarding the names, yet the odds there could have been several families with these names was poorly analyzed.

When it comes to evidence we see for example the Merneptah Stela where one finds a name, possibly translation as Israel and to Christians this is proof of the existence of Israel. Here is a group of names but the evidence is not what is expected so it is ignored.

Nothing is said about the beliefs of these Israelites so it is safe. A group of people from the highlands between Israel and Egypt was found who worshipped a God called YHWH. This God was represented by the Tetragammaton; their name was "Shasu": Since some of their beliefs do not fit what Abrahamists would like the Israelites to have believed, this is also hushed.

The Biblical legends have also been found from a person of the 1st century. The tales of this person is virtually identical to those of Jesus including the resurrection. This person was worshipped for a time by the Romans and he was known as Appolinus of Tyana.

Christians say that the absence of evidence does not mean evidence of absence. Well, there is evidence, yet the interpretation of the evidence is not what they would like so it is ignored!

Best RG

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A family grave has been found which does contain the names of the people associated with the New Testament Jesus!

I did not dispute that. In fact the article I cited, and other references, indicates that two of them have been found.

As to whether or not it was the family which inspired the New Testament tales that is an entirely different matter.

Entirely agree. But your original statement was that the discovery of the "Jesus" ossuary

would support that the “Holy� family actually had existed

a claim I find to be unwarranted, especially when it is then used in sharp comments against one set of people and in favor of your own. I do not care for this type of argumentation, whatever your personal connections may be to the discovery, whatever I may think of its veracity, whatever I may think of those who deny (or support) the claim on the basis of dogma rather than evidence and close dispassionate analysis.

A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest - The Boxer, Paul Simon (Simon and Garfunkel).

No matter what the anticipated result, there will always be someone eager to (a) misinterpret it, (b) fake it, or (c) believe it happened according to his own pet theory. - Finagle's Second Law, from Arthur Bloch's compilation of Murphy's Law corollaries.

It seems that person’s responses are modified by his or her own personal wishes/preconceptions in most instances. I believe we concluded in another thread that the person Christians of today associate with Jesus can't possibly be found for such a person, with all his miracles etc, never existed.

I did not mention the James ossuary for the obvious reason that its owner, Odet Golan has as yet not been sentenced on his charge of forgery by the Israelite antiquities dept.

Other ossuaries have been found which contains the name "Jesus" but the James ossuary is not one of them.

Best RG

Behind every excuse lies a failure, to justify a failure only compounds its magnitude.